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Old 28th June 2002
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Studer 089 console ????

Hi there,
I bought a Studer 089 12 in 2 console a few days ago.
Can anybody tell me something about it ? Even Studer Germany knows nothing about it.
I'm looking for opinions, users, manuals, schematics etc.
Mine is working pretty okay, but from time to time, I hear funny noises coming out of the right side...

Any help is highly appreciated,

Thanks, Andreas
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Old 28th June 2002
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Studer 089

Major score, dude! Info shouldn't be impossible to find as Studer does still exist and they couldn't have tossed all their records from back then.

Other sources worth checking out:
Oliver at Tab-Funkenwerk
Bavo Decker and Sonicworld in Germany
John Klett via his forum

Even in none of them have the info, they should know someone who does.

I spent 6 months trying to acquire the follow up console (the 169) a couple of years ago. They are incredibly well built and sound nice as well.

steve
Old 28th June 2002
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Hey Steve, remeber me from VG? We use to argue with others about good analog gear and you told me I had made a serious mistake when I got my Mackie 1604 and 32 channel 4 buss.

Well, you were correct and I just thought I would let you know I just got a Trident -65 and I feel alot more whole!

Peace & Dreams,
Old 2nd July 2002
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Hi Andreas

I've seen these mixers in use in Denmark's national broadcasting company, DR.

And I know for sure, that they get - and keep - service manuals to every piece of equipment they ever bought. If anything else fails, try contacting their technical services

Jakob Erland
Denmark
Old 2nd July 2002
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thanks, all you guys for your support.

Meanwhile, I phoned Studer Switzerland (jodel) and they made a contact for me to Studer Germany, who still have copies of all the manuals and schematics. 2 big ring binders ! (and of course: 50;00€)

hey, it's only a Studer !
but I like it...

kosi
Old 22nd March 2005
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Studer 089 experience something different

Hello, got the same oldie consoles from the Dutch NOS.
2 pieces gives total amount of 26 or 28 tracks. I have the manual in case you need it.

Do you have the setup in working order Yet? What do you think of the sound.

I'm working on a setup. But first digital and then analogical passion. it's like

greetz, Mark
Old 23rd March 2005
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What you have there is a 089 MK II I just sold a MarkI to a friend in NY.The pre amps are killer, it is an all discrete console that can sound fantastic if it is gone through by a good tech.

You need to mod the board for direct outs which is a major undertaking but worth every bit of effort.

There is a guy by the name of Steve Smith in Nashville who is a wiz with Studer boards if you can get in touch with him.

Good Luck!!

BT
Old 23rd March 2005
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Andreas,
The Studer 089 and the bigger (more channels and 4 to 8 groups) 189 are discrete, Class A consoles. Input and output transformers. The designer was Herman Stierli (hope i'm spelling it correctly). The mic pre has plenty gain, up to 80 dB, i think, and quite an high impedance, 5 Kohms, works great with ribbons. A lot of character. Excellent headroom. It seems you have also two compressor modules in there. Is that your actual console? These were broadcast mixers and done mostly custom. The eq points may vary from one to the other as well as other details. My 189 had male XLR's on all inputs...Some modules in the underneath batch included: line boosters and monitor amps (also Class A, about 10 watts) besides the PS and relays cards. The Studer manuals are masterpieces worth every penny. You may want to consider some service since it probably will need recapping and some love. I'm sure Studer in Germany may be able to suggest you some qualified tech. Other thing, which is pretty good, is that modules and parts for these mixers are still quite avaliable and usually price is decent. About the direct outs mod that Bosco mentions, my personal experience is that is somehow not possible or, to better say, if performed, you'll end up with a lost in level of about 10 dB so that you would need some recovering line gain. I remember i passed on that one but you may investigate better if it's something you need. Tomorrow, i'll try to post a pic of my ex...
Old 23rd March 2005
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Dynamo is correct as far as recovering line gain,this was the major undertaking.I can say it was well worth while though,the preamps are super in all respects.

BT
Old 23rd March 2005
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Bosco,
i would like to know how did you do it. I remember hunting for the original Studer line amp cards and then even considering API 312 modules ...but then i just gave up. Thanks.
Old 23rd March 2005
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I don't know for sure the model number....but there's a console that looks just like that (except it wasn't green like that) in the control room at Carnegie hall that sound awesome!

wolfie
Old 23rd March 2005
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Dynamo,the way we used the desk was 8x2 with 4 aux returns with the four channels we took the preamp strips from.A MCI JH 8trk machine was coming back on the first 8 channels that was synced with a daw.

The daw's 2 mix was also coming back on 2 of the returns and the last 2 fadars were for effects.You could mix whatever you had in the daw along with whatever was on the MCI,this system still works like a champ.

We made a breakout box in which the line amps from old studer cards were mounted, which had attenuation screws so that once calibrated you could set and forget.Those had XLR outs,also on the same breakout box you had XLR in for the four faders (the daw&effects)that we took from the channels we made direct outs for.

So what you had on the console was the first 8 were full functioning channels and the last four faders had no relationship with the channels above them,those strips were just like four rack mounted preamp channels but still in the desk.

Like I said it was a major undertaking!!

BT
Old 23rd March 2005
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By the way I dig the Mercedes ash tray!!
Old 23rd March 2005
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Hard to say "coming from not smoking studio" though...
Thanks for elaborating on the amps thing. You really loved that mixer!
Since on topic i'm posting a pic of the 189MKII i had. This particolar model was a 16 channel on 8 groups, coming from a German radio station. Hope you slutz enjoy...
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Old 23rd March 2005
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Beautiful!
Old 28th March 2005
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Studer Series 900 console

Hello!
I have just read this thread with joy, as I have installed a Studer Series 900 (32/8/2) console in my studio. Meanwhile it's all up and running (the pic is during installation) and it just sounds awesome! My partner and me had our jaws down recording this Bossa Nova band and trying out the console mic preamp almost out of lazyness to mike up the singer. We do have APIs and a VacRack and Telefunkens - the Studer sounded amazing! Later we did a quick monitor mix of the session, went to our lounge and listened to the mix on our B&W 801s and we got drunk just enjoying the audiophile quality of that desk! We are so happy about that particular console (ex Berlin Opera House). This mixing desk has an amazing 4 band EQ with tuneable filters and compressors on 30 channels (Channel 31/32 are stereo, but don't have eigther) and a built in VCA automation (which we don't use) There are four patchable Limiters built in as well and even a little monitor amp. Luckily everything but the inserts are on XLR, becasue you can be unlucky and have tham all on small Tuchels, and we have DI outs on 30 channels as well. I can't stress enough how much we love our new purchase and I am sure Andreas, this 089 mixer will sound as great if a little less flexible, but it will have discrete electronics throughout, which our doesn't!
Install your new purchase, fix the problems, do some (accoustic) recordings listen and lean back with a big smile!!!
Greetz from London!! (from a fellow german by the way...)
Old 28th March 2005
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Studer 900

Here it comes - the beauty!!!:
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Old 27th June 2005
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Schematics For 089

Does anybody have shematics for the 089's Pre amps and or board. I've aquired a board and now want to put direct outs on the pre's.
Thanks
Old 27th June 2005
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Originally Posted by Shawn_w_penner
Does anybody have shematics for the 089's Pre amps and or board. I've aquired a board and now want to put direct outs on the pre's.
Thanks
Boy does that look familiar, just got done going thru about 20 channels the 016,017 and the 018. Could not find new op amps the A-101 from Studer are no longer available so I designed an built about 10 new ones for the console . works great...Have all schematics, pretty straight forward circuit. Bought about 100 of the BC546 and BC556 Transistors.I believe which are used in all the modules. It being a positive ground console keeps me on my toes...WWW.jmkaudio.com
Old 27th June 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn_w_penner
Does anybody have shematics for the 089's Pre amps and or board. I've aquired a board and now want to put direct outs on the pre's.
Thanks
Did you not get the connector section that has the pan and buss switch's. This one IM working on the direct outs are on those assemblies. WWW.jmkaudio.com
Old 28th June 2005
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Here it comes - the beauty!!!:
That looks great, nothing says "Real Studio" like a real console...
Old 4th August 2007
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looking for parts for my 089. i need the round push buttons(with that green or orange tape inside that looks as if a light turned on...) and other switches and buttons. no electronics really. tried all studer reps in the world and none had any. it is standard studer parts used in many studer products actually.
any ideas?
Old 4th August 2007
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looking for parts for my 089. i need the round push buttons(with that green or orange tape inside that looks as if a light turned on...) and other switches and buttons. no electronics really. tried all studer reps in the world and none had any. it is standard studer parts used in many studer products actually.
any ideas?

PM ZaZa, I think he breeds 089's or something. Or maybe it was he mates with 089's, ah hell I don't know just PM him maybe he knows something.
Old 5th August 2007
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Oh yes i have schematics on wiring up 089 preamps, i just do not have a scanner to put them on a file and email.
Those 089s are nothing but super sweet. i discovered those months ago, i have 3 racks 089s with 2 each in them, just PM me if i can help you out
ps: i do not own a 089 board, so no schematics for that.


I got nothing but love for the 089s, those and my 3124s rock the house.
Old 5th August 2007
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hello,
i have a recently recapped studer 189 quadraphonic console. it's an 18x4 (i use an inward connections mix90 as my two buss). it also has a new outboard power supply. i find it to excel in any application i throw at it - tracking using the pres, mixing, limited but great sounding eq, the monitor and talkback section is super nice, i find having two foldback sections is a luxury, the reverb section is nicely put together too, the layout is very intuitive and compact, and last but not least i think the sound is unique and robust. buying this console was surely one of the best studio decisions i ever made.

i don't doubt the insert mod has helped bosco but i don't use the inserts unless i put an echoplex on a single channel or something like that - and i have no level problems using the inserts that way. by the way, the AF insert is approximately -10db and the PF insert is -15 assuming the 089 is the same as the 189. for tracking i just use the patchbay - from my 8 master outputs on the console to my recorder input patchpoint and i get plenty of level for my tracking needs. that gives me 8 channels of preamps. and i can get old school and combine channels to any single master output if i want. that comes in handy when i'm recording a band live in the room while at the same time trying to get the most out of my 1" 8 track. everyone has different recording needs and desires. there is no "right" way so i suggest you read the manual and use your new board for a while before you decide to do any major mods.

here is a link to free online studer manuals complete with schematics! i have a nice bound manual for mine but i was still overjoyed when my friend sent me this link. one great thing about these free pdf manuals is that if your'e working with a tech, he can download them too and you both have a reference while on the phone discussing restoration or modification. very useful. these manuals are very easy to read too.

ftp://ftp.studer.ch/Public/Products/Mixing_Analog/

good luck with the board!
d
Old 6th August 2007
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PM ZAZA, I think he breeds 089's or something. Or maybe it was he mates with 089's,
lol ha ha.....i wish i did, i would not be living in the **** hole city that i live in....my ass would be in Atlanta Ga or Aussa maybe.
089s are amazing, do not ever knock em until to have tried them like i did with a certain piece of gear, never rely on shoot outs either. I am seriously thinking about running my drum room mics and pushing the crap out of them to get that amazing harmonic sound on the cymbals. They are worth having just for Bass and vocals, API does come close to Studer , just another flavor all to gather. I am shocked that more techs have not caught on to Studer, they have that 70s meets Motown sound as well....those 089s can cut some serious motown vibes with a U87 not paded on vocals.
Old 20th September 2007
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looking for parts for my 089. i need the round push buttons(with that green or orange tape inside that looks as if a light turned on...) and other switches and buttons. no electronics really. tried all studer reps in the world and none had any. it is standard studer parts used in many studer products actually.
any ideas?
Hi Rea, the parts you are looking for is made by SCHADOW.

I have some new buttons laying around do you need many?
Plz mail private
/elis
Old 20th September 2007
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Good deal dude, i use the 089, amazing sound, i also have the shematics for the 089 preamp.
Good luck, have a great time.
Old 22nd November 2007
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Studer 089 modules for sale.

I have few Studer 089 modules for sale. Anyone interested?
Old 23rd December 2007
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089 Preamp shema

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Good deal dude, i use the 089, amazing sound, i also have the shematics for the 089 preamp.
Good luck, have a great time.
Hi,
I have 12 Studer 016 Input units from 089 Mixer. I need a shematics for it. Can you email it ?
[email protected]
Thank you.
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