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mic-ing an upright piano Dynamic Microphones
Old 31st May 2008
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mic-ing an upright piano

how do you guys do it best?
what about a honky sound too?
what about trying to get a useable piano sound
say replacing a spot where a grand or baby would usually be?
Old 31st May 2008
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i like to take the front off of the upright off and use two mics
a little above the hammer action (left and right) and a
PZM on the floor. The more honky-tonky .. the closer
to the hammer action....

jeff
Old 31st May 2008
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I like to
- remove the board in front of the player's legs, between the pedals and the keyboard
- aim a pair of the best mics available at the strings coming from either side of the player's legs
- pan the signals slightly

For a honky-tonk sound: don't tune the thing for a couple of years, it'll come. Maybe add some tacks on the hammers.
Old 31st May 2008
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I like to
- remove the board in front of the player's legs, between the pedals and the keyboard
- aim a pair of the best mics available at the strings coming from either side of the player's
+1
if you aim at the spot where the low string cross the high strings you can get a balanced sound with one mic

the other standby I use is over the player's shoulder - come to think of it, that's a standby for almost anything
Old 31st May 2008
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micing the soundboard from the back sounds good too.
Old 31st May 2008
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kind of off topic, but I love to put guitar cabs just a few inches ( or feet depending) away from the back of the upright, hang a condenser in omni inside, close the lid and lo and behold some real magic. you can get real creative and hold down the sustain pedals too....good fun.
Old 31st May 2008
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micing the soundboard from the back sounds good too.
+1 , definitely. Move it away from the wall if possible, and find a sweet tone spot. it's not called the soundboard for nothing. thumbsup
Old 31st May 2008
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soundboard with a couple 57s or a 47...
Old 31st May 2008
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Originally Posted by joeq View Post
+1
if you aim at the spot where the low string cross the high strings you can get a balanced sound with one mic

the other standby I use is over the player's shoulder - come to think of it, that's a standby for almost anything
but, don't you think you get too much pedal noise micing underneath
the action?
Old 31st May 2008
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I recorded an upright piano on a project I tracked a couple of weeks ago. The artist posted a pic of it on his blog. The set up was a pair of AT4050s in ORTF (though I don't think it was quite as wide a 110 degrees) between the piano and the player--> Purple Biz pres--> Audient ASP8024 console--> Apogee AD16x--> Pro Tools. The picture is about 3/4 of the way down the page. Enjoy!!

http://treyrollins.blogspot.com/
Old 14th July 2008
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kind of off topic, but I love to put guitar cabs just a few inches ( or feet depending) away from the back of the upright, hang a condenser in omni inside, close the lid and lo and behold some real magic. you can get real creative and hold down the sustain pedals too....good fun.
Yeah, I've heard of that idea before and would like to try it sometime. Do you face the amps towards the piano or away?

I wonder what it might sound like if you were to put the amp on the piano?
Old 14th July 2008
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Put a large condenser with a little "bright" feel (perferably a AKG C414 in omni) on the right side of the mucisian beside him/her`s legs.
Old 14th July 2008
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micing the soundboard from the back sounds good too.
+1 with a single Gefell m58.
Old 15th July 2008
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A single PZM placed on soundboard in front of player's legs [cover removed of course], on the left at 20/30 cm from intersection of strings, is amazing IMHO.

Of course the pianist must not use the pedal.
Piano's pedal is evil.
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