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mixing analogue
Old 10th December 2002
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mixing analogue

Has anyone ever used a soundtracs pc-MIDI console? I have kinda aquiered one, and am trying to decide whether to go down the mix in analogue route or just keep it in sonar when I go and open up my own shop. I already have some pretty good gear for tracking, an la3a, pultec and a couple of ward beck 460 pre's, so all I'd need to add to the setup would be a few rnc's and a couple of nice reverbs (well, for starters anyway heh ) - plugs will take care of the slack for the time being. I am not going to be tracking drums. I have never really worked on an analogue console before, I have grown up in the digital age and it has been very good to me but I'm just starting to find that it is really quite difficult to nail a mix in the computer and that the bussing sounds well, er, not right. I dunno, it's kinda hard to explain. the computer sounds FANTASTIC with a few instruments, but once you have a whole band going there is a distinct lack of balls, and it's not all my fault. It can't be this hard, I've been mixing for ages and have been studying like a machine in an effort to improve my skills for the last 5 years and, although I don't know everything, reckon that i should be getting better results than I currently do.
Is mixing on an analogue console the solution? Should I go back to school? is the soundtracs gonna be a pain in the arse? is being able to save mixes more valuable than any sonic benefits i might achieve using an analogue console? Help! I need some advice!
Old 10th December 2002
One with big hooves
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I used one of those consoles in college and again a few years later. I remembered it sounded pretty good and when I had the chance to use it again I wasn't disappointed. I find mixing on a console much easier then mixing in a DAW. I like having real knobs and faders for everything rather then hunting around. But you could get used to doing things either way. If you have and want to use a lot of outboard when you mix having a console is the only way to go. Some people need total recall of everything, some people don't. I don't, but there are times it would be nice.
Old 10th December 2002
Gear Guru
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Hook up the console and see how you like using it. The reason my studio is set up the way it is is because it's how I like to work. You might hate using a console. I hate using a mouse.
Old 11th December 2002
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I have a Soundtracs Solo midi console. I sort of got it as part of a package deal with an analog tape machine. I bought the tape machine because the mixes I was doing at home on the computer were leaving me very flat.

Using the Soundtracs as a mixer for the stuff I've recorded on the computer sounds worlds better than doing all the ixing inside the computer......I have a MOTU 2408. I basically mix inside the computer to 8 subgroups then bring those 8 channels up on 8 faders (and I can use outboard compressors on those 8 faders)......I'll use outboard reverb which I prefer to the ones I've heard in the computer...I can put a compressor over the stereo bus.......However, I still can use the computer's automation for a great deal of the moves. It's not too difficult to write down the settings on the console's 8 channels and the outboard [a lot easier than it was to chart a full 24 or 48 track analog mix was]....

So, while I would certainly prefer a Neve, the Soundtracs is definitely a major step up from mixing inside the computer....
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