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Tips on micing a fingerstyle guitar and voc needed
Old 2nd December 2007
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Tips on micing a fingerstyle guitar and voc needed

I'd be very grateful for any tips or tricks on microphone techniques for recording someone who's fingerpicking acoustic guitar(small body) and singing at the same time.

Thanks in advance
Old 2nd December 2007
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Hi,

take two figure 8 mics (pref. ribbons), point mic (a) at source (a) with null aiming at source (b) and vice versa.



Clarence
Old 2nd December 2007
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IME, I've had the best luck using a single mic for these situations. Last time I had to do this I used a single Neumann M49 in omni, and it came out great. Of course the room we were in at the time as absolutely amazing.

Just move it around till you get a good blend between the voice and the guitar.
Old 25th December 2007
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thank you.....I check it out!
Old 26th December 2007
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depends....are there more instruments in the track or is this just a "stripped" type song. if it is stand alone with those two tracks i would say 2 SDC's on the guitar (one on the picking fingers and one at the 12 fret). Put a ribbon on the voice. Throw up an LDC six or eight feet back and get some room. hope that helps!
Old 26th December 2007
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sdc - omni or card

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depends....are there more instruments in the track or is this just a "stripped" type song. if it is stand alone with those two tracks i would say 2 SDC's on the guitar (one on the picking fingers and one at the 12 fret). Put a ribbon on the voice. Throw up an LDC six or eight feet back and get some room. hope that helps!
About using sdc on guitars... I have the oktava's 012... and I can choose omni, card or hyper-card... what would you suggest? When using 2, card? When using one omni (so you don't get the boomy prox. effect)?

Sorry for taking this thread.

thanks,

m
Old 26th December 2007
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About using sdc on guitars... I have the oktava's 012... and I can choose omni, card or hyper-card... what would you suggest? When using 2, card? When using one omni (so you don't get the boomy prox. effect)?

Sorry for taking this thread.

thanks,

m
i think you are right on miqer. it could be fun to experiment with the 2 mic scenario with both in omni and try to find a cool sweet spot.
Old 26th December 2007
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Hi,

take two figure 8 mics (pref. ribbons), point mic (a) at source (a) with null aiming at source (b) and vice versa.



Clarence
I have had some really good and success with this technique. The seperation is quite remarkable.
Old 27th December 2007
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I've done it with 2 KM184's and a Peluso 2247. I used an IBP on the 2247, it worked great and got a nice stereo thingy happening with the guitar
Old 27th December 2007
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While you might want to experiment with two mics on the guitar and one on vocal, I'm afraid you're likely to get more phase wash out than you'd like. It may be easier to get a good sound with one on the guitar and one on the vocal.

That said, I do a lot of informal acoustic guitar and vocal recording (typically fingerpicked) and I've ended up using one mic for vocal and guitar place an appropriate distance away to let the guitar and vocal blend as well as to allow for variations in playing position if the artist moves around much.

The movement of the artist (which is often me) as he plays can be problematic if the mics are close -- as is often the case with a two mic setup, as you try to get the mics close enough to their source to not get washed out by the other source.
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