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Gong sample? Condenser Microphones
Old 12th September 2007
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Gong sample?

Anyone got a good gong sample? Thinking about the RA collection from East West anyway... I'm sure there's one in there. I need the big deep 70" gong hit with a giant mallet sound... you know the one with the crazy low end explosion. Thanks.
Old 12th September 2007
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Anyone got a good gong sample? Thinking about the RA collection from East West anyway... I'm sure there's one in there. I need the big deep 70" gong hit with a giant mallet sound... you know the one with the crazy low end explosion. Thanks.

roll your own
just lower the pitch of a cymbal with your sampler.

I used to get a kick a$$ gong lowering the pitch of a cymbal
on a roland r8. That was 20 years ago but it sounded realistic with
the right verb
Old 12th September 2007
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RA is well worth the money dude



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Old 13th September 2007
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I'm sure it is. I love some of the Middle Eastern sounds it has, not to mention all the other good ****. But, does it have said gong? heh
Old 13th September 2007
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I seem to recall some decent gongs in the Sound Ideas fx libraries which I think are available at sounddogs.com. You can audition them and buy the one you like for like a buck or something ridiculously cheap like that.

Or the pitched down ride cymbal smash works well too - sometimes better than the real thing
Old 14th September 2007
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I took a few swings at my gong for you. It's not a 70 incher, but It's quite a nice gong. In fact the fundamental frequency of a 70" gong is so low they are mostly for the "wow" factor.

Hopefully it will work for you.

It is a 28" 1960's Paiste / Ludwig Symphonic gong.


EDIT: See post #15 below for more complete samples of higher quality.

http://www.upload.celtiaproductions....ng_warmup1.mp3
http://www.upload.celtiaproductions....ng_warmup2.mp3
http://www.upload.celtiaproductions....medium_hit.mp3
http://www.upload.celtiaproductions.co.uk/uploads/paiste_symphonic_gong_hard_hit.mp3


p.s. I doubt you'll make a detuned ride sound like that.
Old 14th September 2007
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I'm sure it is. I love some of the Middle Eastern sounds it has, not to mention all the other good ****. But, does it have said gong? heh
Ra has some very nice gong samples. If I remember correctly it does have that really low sounding gong, I'll check later when I get to the studio.

RA is really a great library and definitely worth the $.
Old 14th September 2007
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I took a few swings at my gong for you. (...)
Cool sounds!
Any infos about the recording signal chain?
Old 14th September 2007
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Cool sounds!
Any infos about the recording signal chain?
CAD M177 about 3ft back aimed center (flat filter, pad not engaged, I probably should have). > SCA A12. > Motu 1224. > Reaper.
Old 14th September 2007
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Wow, thank you sir! You totally didn't have to do that and I very much appreciate it. I love gearslutz
Old 14th September 2007
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that is totally awesome that you made/posted those samples

i was thinking just the other day about how i wanted to put some horns and maybe a gong over a track i'm working on, and was thinking "where in the hell am i going to find a gong sample?"

i should've known gearslutz would be the answer
Old 15th September 2007
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Are you getting distortion on your end? Even on the medium hit, with the waveform being much smaller than the hard hit, I'm still hearing some distortion and was wondering if maybe I did something wrong when coverting it from .mp3 into my 88.2k PT's session. Even if it is distorted, thanks again for taking the time to do that... hopefully I can make it work. Later.
Old 15th September 2007
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Are you getting distortion on your end? Even on the medium hit, with the waveform being much smaller than the hard hit, I'm still hearing some distortion and was wondering if maybe I did something wrong when coverting it from .mp3 into my 88.2k PT's session. Even if it is distorted, thanks again for taking the time to do that... hopefully I can make it work. Later.
Hmm, yeah I just listened to the mp3 version of the hits. They do seem to crackle a bit. I'm not sure if it is because of mp3 conversion, or the mic was distorting.
A gong is WAY louder that one would imagine. The bass that comes off it is pretty cool.
Unfortunately I deleted the session and wav files, so *if* I have time tomorrow I will record some new samples. I might even set up an X/Y or spaced pair....
This time I'll be more critical when listening to the mp3's I upload.
Old 15th September 2007
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****, if you can record me some 88.2 samples at really good quality, I'll Paypal you a few bucks. I really like the sound of that gong. Perfect for this nasty Arabian metal part I'm working on for a song... think Tool meets Zeppelin. My email is [email protected] if you want to get in touch. Thanks.
Old 15th September 2007
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Thanks for the offer! But there is no need to give me money.

My hardware is capable of up to 48kHz, so I recorded at that sample rate. You may have to upsample it to work in your session.

I emailed you a link to a .rar file with the full resolution 24/48 files.
The samples are not cut or edited in any way. So if you want to get some ambiance from the gong, there should be lots of usable stuff.

For the other people who may want Gong samples, here are 256kbps / 40kHz mp3 files you can use. I plan on removing the rar file from my web space after Dobby downloads it. But these mp3 files should be live for a while.

Pair of CAD Equitek e70 > SCA A12 > MOTU 1224
http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/825...center_2ft.mp3 (xy with center of gong aimed at center of xy array, 2ft back)
http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/178...xyleft_2ft.mp3 (xy with center of gong aimed at left mic of xy array, 2ft back)

Modded Stellar rm1 Ribbon > SCA N72 > MOTU 1224
http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/136...ribbon_2ft.mp3 (2ft back)
http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/559...ribbon_4ft.mp3 (4ft back)
I was curious what a ribbon would sound like on the gong, here was my chance to try it out. :D
Old 16th September 2007
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Hey man.

Not to be a buzzkill but ... that is not a gong. Not the way that I learned it anyways. A tam tam is a type of gong. The original gong is a big ole flat piece. It doesnt have the unfinshed 90 degree edges and thus produces a different sound than a tam tam. The original gong has often been supplanted with these big ole tam tams that while very very cool, dont have alot of the gong thing going on. Tam tams have a quicker attack with a more consistent sound than a gong. A gong generally needs to be more warmed up more before a strike than a tam tam and has a more delayed flourish. Before you get your great gong samples it may help to slightly tap the gong /tam tam around the edges with a beater to get the metal moving a bit even though its nearly inaudible. If you are in a symphonic situation you can warm it up more if the band is wound up at the time. Warming it up makes it sound better and also makes the sound bloom quicker to work in time with the other musicians.

The great gongs are awe inspiring pieces of alloy to play. Life affirming and life changing. They have there own personalities.

There are also nippled thai type gongs which are a whole different thing and are very tonal. Very very cool.

I don't want to come off as the percussion **** or whatever but there is more to that family of instruments than something to chuck your lighter at when your at a concert.

Oh and the nuttiness of a gong or a tam tam or whatever is not going to happen with a slowed down cymbal. Although a slowed down cymbal (especially something dark like a 60s K zild or an istanbul is a really great sound).

When I have warmed up and smashed a gong in some triple forte section of some bad ass piece of music I have often seen about three rows of string players with the hair on their arms standing straight up. Its a kickass sound.


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Originally Posted by tarnationsauce View Post
I took a few swings at my gong for you. It's not a 70 incher, but It's quite a nice gong. In fact the fundamental frequency of a 70" gong is so low they are mostly for the "wow" factor.

Hopefully it will work for you.

It is a 28" 1960's Paiste / Ludwig Symphonic gong.


EDIT: See post #15 below for more complete samples of higher quality.

http://www.upload.celtiaproductions....ng_warmup1.mp3
http://www.upload.celtiaproductions....ng_warmup2.mp3
http://www.upload.celtiaproductions....medium_hit.mp3
http://www.upload.celtiaproductions.co.uk/uploads/paiste_symphonic_gong_hard_hit.mp3


p.s. I doubt you'll make a detuned ride sound like that.
Old 16th September 2007
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cool samples and nice of you to have done this for the guy. listening im now curious as to what a ribbon would sound like on this having never recorded a gong myself. especially on the hard hit.
Old 1st April 2010
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Update

Hey, the links appear to be dead (perhaps because this thread is 3 years old). Does anyone have these samples still?
Old 1st April 2010
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Ultimate Free Gong Sample

NOt encouraging anyone to steal from The Moody Blues, but there is a universally-available, easliy grabbable gong sample right at the end of "nights in white satin"

I have seen a few engineers grab that and use it. (not on a major release or anything, mind you)

BTW there is a great thread about that album on here last week.
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