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Thinking about md421. That much better than a 57??? Dynamic Microphones
Old 12th September 2007
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IMO, the 57 often works great for distorted guitars/Marshall cabs but I never liked it on clean or half-clean Fender amps. The 421 on the other hand is great on both clean and distorted amps. Just the right combo of sizzle, punch and warmth.....
That's kind of my take on things too.
Old 12th September 2007
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Its not a better mic its just a different flavor. It does have the variable HPF which is cool, and its got a high mid lift in a different place than the 57. They are both great mics but if I could have only one it would be a 57.
"57 on the grill.....any questions?" -RCMthumbsup
Old 12th September 2007
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Reminiscent of the St.Anger snare)
And someone actually wanted that??!?!?! hehhehheh

I use 421s on everything too. Kick/snare/toms/guitars/bass cabs...even had a guy sing into one when my SM7 took a dump...wasn't great, but better then a 57!
Old 29th September 2007
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The old white 421s are far better. Richer deeper tones.

However, can anyone recommened exactly which of the old ones to go for?
Any of them?

There seems to be quite a variety and surely one type must be more desireable than another.
Old 29th September 2007
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As far as I know the old ones had different letters at the end signifying
the different connector....



No one has mentioned the almost zero noise from a 421...

I used to think all mic pres were noisy at full gain until I got a 421...

I can crank up the gain to ridiculous amounts and the noise is negligible...

the 57 on the other hand is very noisy at those gains...

I get great results with my beige 421 on acc guit, Vocals...and the usual stuff like horns toms, bass cab etc

the other day, at a session I walked in on, had a new 421 on the top lesslie cabinet from a hammond and it sounded really nice...


hire one and try is out for a day or 2 well worth the experience
Old 29th September 2007
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I absolutely LOATHE the 421 clips.
One of the worst designed pieces of audio stuff.
Definitely agree! I've been using the 421 on floor tom, sometimes inside kick, and definitely my top 3 mics to use on guitar cabs.

It's all about colors for me; each mic has its merits, and when used properly, each mic can shine.
Old 29th September 2007
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Ridiculous!! Anyone with decent engineering chops knows the 57 is the flat-head!
Yea the 57 is more like a flat head screwdriver. It's a pain in the ass, takes more time and makes you wish a phillips screw had been used.
Old 29th September 2007
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I have four 421s (U5) and always tend to reach for my Beyer Dynamic Soundstar (looks just like a 421) when a 421 is called for. It just seems to be a tad bit better sounding to me.

It would be the equivalent of a old Unidyne 57 sounding better than a newer Mexican made 57.
Old 29th September 2007
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ive also had good success using them on leslie cabinets.

good mic.
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