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1176 Way Over Hyped Dynamics Processors (HW)
Old 18th September 2007
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...yes you are a ******.....

******

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1. a contemptible person; jerk.
2. a male masturbator.


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So is he a #1 ****** or a #2 ******? They seem to be two entirely different things.
Old 18th September 2007
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Studio 1117-----will you please change your avatar? Maybe something less offensive--- like 2 dogs f'ing or something.
Old 18th September 2007
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Nickynickywhatever,
release knob all the way to the right, attack knob all the way to the left.
Old 18th September 2007
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Studio 1117-----will you please change your avatar? Maybe something less offensive--- like 2 dogs f'ing or something.


BTW...for those of you wondering...I'm a #2 ******
Old 18th September 2007
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Nickynickywhatever,
release knob all the way to the right, attack knob all the way to the left.
release knob? what preset is that?
Old 6th December 2007
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A 1976 phone conversation:

[phone ringing]

"TimeMachine Studios."

"Yes, I was wondering if I could speak with one of your engineers. I need some advice."

"This is Tom Straight, Chief Engineer. What kind of advice are you looking for?"

"Oh great. Yeah, well, I'm putting together a studio, and I have $2000 to spend. I'm wondering what should I buy first?"

"What you should buy first? Do you have a tape machine?"

"No."

"Do you have a console?"

"No."

"Do you have a room?"

"No."

"Get out of here kid, you're bothering me."

"I was thinking about starting with a compressor. I heard about some Urine compressor"

"Urine compressor?"

"Yeah, I think it was the 1776."

"You mean Urei 1176?"

"That's the one."

"It's a limiter not a compressor."

"I see. Well, is that the best limiter you have?"

"It's a good limiter."

"Is it the best in the world?"

"That's ridiculous. Best in the world? It's a limiter. I have 3 limiters in this room. I have a Fairchild, an 1176, and an La2a, and I use all three of them."

"Only 3? Shouldn't you have one for every channel?"

"Why the hell would I want that? I never heard of anything so absurd! Music is dynamic, kid. Sometimes you want to reduce the dynamics, but you don't want to eradicate them. That would make music boring."

"I see. Well, then, which limiter do you think will be worth the most years from now?"

"You mean worth the least. These are depreciating assets, like a car."

"They don't go up in value?"

"Of course not! Why would they go up in value?"

"Well, what if, in the future, everyone and their brother gets into the recording business, and the quality of gear and the recording chain in general goes down so drastically, that all those limiters you have actually go up in value?"

"It'll never happen. That's ridiculous."

"Do you ever think of buying more limiters or compressors?"

"Why do you use the terms limiter and compressor as if they're interchangeable kid? Yeah, of course I consider buying another limiter. I'm going to see what's out there at the next AES convention"

"Would you buy another 1176?"

"I might."

"Would you ever lust over one?"

"You lust over a woman kid, not a box full of electronics. Who the hell are you anyway? Are you from the future?"

"It's a bleak place."

"Sounds like it, kid. I gotta run. I have 24 channels to align before my clients come in."

[Click]

I suppose you're right. No one really ever talked about it.

Enjoy,

Mixerman

Total fukking litteral mayhem on GS!!heh

Loving it and waiting for more!!

Bottom line is...

If you've used an 1176 and are unable to appreciate the quatlity's............ Change style or maybe career....

Best,

Jamzone
Old 6th December 2007
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Total fukking litteral mayhem on GS!!heh

Loving it and waiting for more!!

Bottom line is...

If you've used an 1176 and are unable to appreciate the quatlity's............ Change style or maybe career....

Best,

Jamzone
awesome compressor
Old 6th December 2007
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I'm laughing so hard I think I shart myself.
Old 6th December 2007
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Nicky may be the love child of Jacklynn and Walters.
Old 6th December 2007
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wow .. i think the 1176 takes some time to learn to use it. you may
get unsatisfactory results until you do. but, once you do, you can do
some very cool and musical things with it.

jeff
Old 6th December 2007
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Tubes...

Most overrated piece of audio gear ever to be talked about on this forum.
When tube gear does what it's supposed to do, it does nothing.

It's transformers it's all about. And FET. Thats WARMTH!!!!


Best,


///Jamzone
All the great tube designs generally incorporate transformers on the input. What's your point?

And solid-state transformer coupled equipment doesn't sound "warm" to me. It imparts a sound more like "bite", for lack of a better word.
Old 6th December 2007
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hmmm.. about the 1176.

I had an "awakening" the first time I ever heard an 1176 patched in on my vocals in a mix... In fact, I remember thinking that the mixer had just "fixed" the entire song by fixing the way the vocal sat and sounded in the mix...

From my "vocalist" point of view it's one of the best vocal tracking compressors I've ever used. It's also absolutely brilliant on guitar leads...

From a mixing standpoint... I wouldn't mind having 6... or maybe 8.
Old 6th December 2007
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wow .. i think the 1176 takes some time to learn to use it. you may
get unsatisfactory results until you do. but, once you do, you can do
some very cool and musical things with it.

jeff
I found all you had to do was patch it in and turn it on. Like turning on a light.
Old 6th December 2007
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The fool blames his tools

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...I didn't say it was a bad piece of gear, just overhyped and useless for tracking...
Ummm... "useless for tracking?" Ooookay

Let's break it down...

1176, revered for decades (for reasons beyond marketing, pure results)
1176 basically a constant as a compressor (although many debate versions)
Studios around the world seem to love them.
Many of THE most talented producers love them
MANY ot THE greatest records have been made with them.

Soooooo, considering ALL of the above and you are using the VERY same 1176 and claim it is "useless for tracking..."

What is the variable?

ANSWER: You.

Ever consider the problem was you?

-a
Old 6th December 2007
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Are you guys talking about the Bombfactory 1176 or the UAD one?
Old 6th December 2007
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Are you guys talking about the Bombfactory 1176 or the UAD one?
After nine pages of this sillyness I'm not about to go looking to figure it out.
Old 6th December 2007
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Are you guys talking about the Bombfactory 1176 or the UAD one?
Naah, actually they're talking about TC's 24/7.
Old 8th December 2007
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fair enough...but really the point is...there are so many posts about how it's the cat's ass and IMO it's not...that doesn't make me an "idiot" or "dickhead" or unable to use a compressor..not offended... interesting to see how people react to honesty
What makes you seem like a "dickhead" and "idiot" is your intonation, attitude, and bad spelling and grammar. Your point of view on this particular piece of gear and subsequent back-peddling about your initial post support that perception, and incidentally do very little to give you any credibility as an engineer - if that matters to someone as dense and belligerent as you appear to be.
Old 8th December 2007
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What makes you seem like a "dickhead" and "idiot" is your intonation
He's a bit flat.
Old 8th December 2007
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All the great tube designs generally incorporate transformers on the input. What's your point?

And solid-state transformer coupled equipment doesn't sound "warm" to me. It imparts a sound more like "bite", for lack of a better word.
I would'nt call a vintage neve console 'cold' sounding...

When tubes operate at their best there virtually 'invisible'. What you mean when you say 'well designed' is probably when they operate in a less then optimal environment. I simply suggest that there are other factors that are of a far greater significance then the tubes themeselfes. I think we're talking about a great sonic footprint here and I honestly can't say that that I've heard that from any high-end tube gear (except tube mices!).

Please enlighten and tell me what I should be looking for!


Best,

Jamzone
Old 8th December 2007
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What makes you seem like a "dickhead" and "idiot" is your intonation, attitude, and bad spelling and grammar. Your point of view on this particular piece of gear and subsequent back-peddling about your initial post support that perception, and incidentally do very little to give you any credibility as an engineer - if that matters to someone as dense and belligerent as you appear to be.
Eloquently put thumbsup
Old 25th February 2015
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Hey everybody, I'm I alone in thinking that the 1176 is way overhyped and almost completely useless for tracking...the only thing that it gives you is something cool on a bass when using the "4 on the floor" setting and even that gets boring after one song. Keep in mind I'm not talking mixing.......I tracked with one for a year and found that the only reason I was using it was because it was there in my chain....didn't do a damn thing ....except maybe give a cruddy muddy squishy sound to some guitars that had to be redone....I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think it is a stand out peice of gear...average really...anyone with me?

Nick

P.S. absolutely the worst compressor on a snare track :0)
Couldn't agree more!
Old 25th February 2015
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Lazarus loves the 1176 for tracking!

Do you use yours before or after your LA2A when using that combo?
Old 25th February 2015
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Lazarus loves the 1176 for tracking!

Do you use yours before or after your LA2A when using that combo?
Trying to learn more about the 1176. Clearly the 1176 is a legend. But, based on research I've come to think of the 1176 as primarily a compressor for rock - vocals and drums. At least when its used alone. Am I wrong on this? I don't usually do rock so I have resisted buying one.

I do have an 1176 plug-in. I did a rock song once and used and it on vocals and drums and it did exactly what I expected - it made it sound like a rock record.

However, I primarily do Jazz, Pop and Blues. Would you use an 1176 on these kinds of vocals? On these vocals would you use it stand alone or chained with an LA2A, Retro Sta or something like this?
Old 25th February 2015
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Y'all realize this thread died 8 years ago, right?
Old 25th February 2015
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Y'all realize this thread died 8 years ago, right?
Yes. Lazarus is the term I use for these occurrences.
Old 25th February 2015
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Trying to learn more about the 1176. Clearly the 1176 is a legend. But, based on research I've come to think of the 1176 as primarily a compressor for rock - vocals and drums. At least when its used alone. Am I wrong on this? I don't usually do rock so I have resisted buying one.

I do have an 1176 plug-in. I did a rock song once and used and it on vocals and drums and it did exactly what I expected - it made it sound like a rock record.

However, I primarily do Jazz, Pop and Blues. Would you use an 1176 on these kinds of vocals? On these vocals would you use it stand alone or chained with an LA2A, Retro Sta or something like this?
Pop and blues, heck yes!

I don't have a Retro but have used an LA2A with my 1176 more than once.
Old 25th February 2015
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Yes. Lazarus is the term I use for these occurrences.
Sailed right over. :-)
Old 25th February 2015
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And the Gearslutz Time Machine takes another trip into the not-so-distant-[deleted]past.
Old 26th February 2015
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If we leave the blue stripe out of the discussion...because that thing does not sound like a typical 1176!.....then i agree with the OP

It's a squishy sloppy sounding surge of a too expensive comp...

And retors are no better for that matter...owned them all
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