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Old 28th August 2007
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How much do you charge?

Hi everybody!

That is for me one of the hardest questions, how much should I charge? I am trying to do a seperate charge for recordcompanys and maybe charge a bit less if it's DIY production .

But abslutely hardest is to record for friends...

Maybe it's a bit private but it would be very intresting to hear what you think about this.

Petter
Old 28th August 2007
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I think you should charge as much as possible in each possible instance.
Old 28th August 2007
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I think you should charge as much as possible in each possible instance.
Exactly, but thats the hard, how much is possible...

Petter
Old 28th August 2007
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Im charging less Pr hour than i was 10 years ago, with a way better room now

cost of living keeps going up

Charge as much as you can to keep the room booked months in advance, Then raise the rates so your booked 30% of the month and making the same as when you were booked at 90%

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Old 28th August 2007
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Rates as of now

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Old 28th August 2007
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It sounds quite fair to me, maybe too cheap.

When I think about, if I look at your studio, very cheap. Or?....

Petter
Old 28th August 2007
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It sounds quite fair to me, maybe too cheap.

When I think about, if I look at your studio, very cheap. Or?....

Petter
Yea this room is new so im still trying to spread the word im open )

Im booked pretty well now, and there is allot of new gear coming in so the rates will go up accordingly, but i still give "Bro Rates" to GSers, my friends or groups i want to work with, After all i love what i do and i want to be working with the best artists i can get in here, so as long as im paying the bills im happy


Old 28th August 2007
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Yea this room is new so im still trying to spread the word im open )

Im booked pretty well now, and there is allot of new gear coming in so the rates will go up accordingly, but i still give "Bro Rates" to GSers, my friends or groups i want to work with, After all i love what i do and i want to be working with the best artists i can get in here, so as long as im paying the bills im happy


My studio is not my fulltime job, I work 70 % as a musician and 30 % studio owner. My cost for the studio is quite low right now so I don't have to work with bands I don't like. That's a blessing for me. I really have a hard time working with music I don't like.

But the artists and bands that I work with are mainly connected somehow thru friends. And that's the big Q, bro-rate or not....

Petter
Old 28th August 2007
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steve,
can you post here the ground plan of your studio?
Old 28th August 2007
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It sounds quite fair to me, maybe too cheap.

When I think about, if I look at your studio, very cheap. Or?....

Petter
in europe , my friend, the prices are even lower, I see so many studios hitting the rock bottom...
studios like this varispeedstudioswith neve 8058+bcm10+neve melbourn at your area charge 600€ INCLUDING accommodation for the band and 24hours access per day!
Old 28th August 2007
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I do mastering but I'll do it for $40 a song if it's all FTP- as sometimes it is.

That's definitely on the scarey cheap side, but I quit trying to do loudness races while still making things sound nice. Now I get up to old Bob Ludwig levels, but for less money I get to do work that actually sounds good. Time will tell if this actually does business for me, but I'm happy with it either way
Old 28th August 2007
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prices drop every day !
you can get a nice studio here for 400€ a day
that's 50$ / hour

everybody has a small protools setup now,
they come for drums and mix !
full projects are getting sparse :(

i'm talking nice mid-size studio's (not the real big shots)
Old 28th August 2007
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prices drop every day !
you can get a nice studio here for 400€ a day
that's 50$ / hour

everybody has a small protools setup now,
they come for drums and mix !
full projects are getting sparse :(

i'm talking nice mid-size studio's (not the real big shots)
I guess that we have to live with this. Gear gets cheaper and today it's totally possible to record an album at home with mbox mini, people do it all the time.

The important thing is to find a way to sell your knowledge.

Petter
Old 28th August 2007
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I guess that we have to live with this. Gear gets cheaper and today it's totally possible to record an album at home with mbox mini, people do it all the time.

The important thing is to find a way to sell your knowledge.

Petter

Try to focus on something they cant do at home,.. I track and mix with Tape, 820 Studer 24tk and i have a nice sounding console and live room

I go the analog route because its the way i work, but it sets us apart from the other Ptools rooms that are charging the same or even less

find your niche


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Old 28th August 2007
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But abslutely hardest is to record for friends
ask them how much they earn, that usually puts everything into context and sorts things out sharpish

charge record companies the going rate for your facility

DIY'ers - what they can afford should equal what it's worth to you
Old 29th August 2007
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wow $80?
youd last a week in Boston charging that much.
I think $50 is tops here unless your
very reputable. And that's rare.
Old 29th August 2007
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yes, allan,

and you want to compare cost of living between boston and los angeles, dude?


FORGET property prices....

get real.....

besides, boston isn't exactly an "entertainment industry" town, is it??....

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Old 29th August 2007
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wow $80?
youd last a week in Boston charging that much.
I think $50 is tops here unless your
very reputable. And that's rare.

Steve IS reputable. He's a great engineer and a great person.
Old 29th August 2007
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We average a $1000 per tune- (10 hours ) --But I am usually producing/performing most the song. Drums, Bass, horns, strings, harmonies, etc ... We specialize in solo/duo artist. Living in this town, cost an average $5k mortgage a month, it can cost one > $20 per hour ~ just to open the doors.
Old 29th August 2007
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wow $80?
youd last a week in Boston charging that much.
I think $50 is tops here unless your
very reputable. And that's rare.
My hourly rates are about right, maybe a bit on the low side for my day rate,

There are smaller DAW rooms close by charging 50 to 70$ an hr.
and a similar studio to mine charging over 1k a day


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Old 29th August 2007
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wow $80?
youd last a week in Boston charging that much.
I think $50 is tops here unless your
very reputable. And that's rare.
That's actually a really good deal for what people are getting.
In fact, that's on the low side of where it should be.
Old 1st September 2007
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yes, allan,

and you want to compare cost of living between boston and los angeles, dude?


FORGET property prices....

get real.....

besides, boston isn't exactly an "entertainment industry" town, is it??....

..
bro up until 6 months ago a 3 bedroom ranch in my town was 550k and it needed work. The cost of living is similar. In LA it is all mexicans. If they can push brooms and afford rent in your town it can't be that expensive. I live in a modest suburb of Boston and it is 750k for a nice house. LA is a slum. Rents are the same as Boston. NY is a different story.

Also who was the last artist to get signed in LA??? Poisen?? Warrant?? Snoop DOGG?? At least Boston is home to the greatest American rock band of all time. Also Western MA and Conn. is still the Metal Capital of the world. entertainment industry?? If your talking Entertainment as in music, LA is not an entertainment industry town. Maybe sitcoms and film

face it other than VH and the Doors you guys have produced alot of cheezy acts. Anybody else is just a transplant anyhow
Old 1st September 2007
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bro up until 6 months ago a 3 bedroom ranch in my town was 550k and it needed work. The cost of living is similar. In LA it is all mexicans. If they can push brooms and afford rent in your town it can't be that expensive. I live in a modest suburb of Boston and it is 750k for a nice house. LA is a slum. Rents are the same as Boston. NY is a different story.

Also who was the last artist to get signed in LA??? Poisen?? Warrant?? Snoop DOGG?? At least Boston is home to the greatest American rock band of all time. Also Western MA and Conn. is still the Metal Capital of the world. entertainment industry?? If your talking Entertainment as in music, LA is not an entertainment industry town. Maybe sitcoms and film

face it other than VH and the Doors you guys have produced alot of cheezy acts. Anybody else is just a transplant anyhow
WOW!!! I guess I should probably rethink my life. Perhaps you're right..... Maybe Boston is the new music capitol of the world (seeing as LA is so completely void of talent and full of Mexicans). Thanks for the insight, I'll pack my things.
Old 1st September 2007
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bro up until 6 months ago a 3 bedroom ranch in my town was 550k and it needed work. The cost of living is similar. In LA it is all mexicans. If they can push brooms and afford rent in your town it can't be that expensive. I live in a modest suburb of Boston and it is 750k for a nice house. LA is a slum. Rents are the same as Boston. NY is a different story.

Also who was the last artist to get signed in LA??? Poisen?? Warrant?? Snoop DOGG?? At least Boston is home to the greatest American rock band of all time. Also Western MA and Conn. is still the Metal Capital of the world. entertainment industry?? If your talking Entertainment as in music, LA is not an entertainment industry town. Maybe sitcoms and film

face it other than VH and the Doors you guys have produced alot of cheezy acts. Anybody else is just a transplant anyhow
I'm speechless.
I want to respond... but somehow, I'm just speechless.
Old 1st September 2007
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Me 2....


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Old 1st September 2007
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on a best neighborhood comparison on average betw. boston and LA,

the cost of a typical house is $400,000 more in LA - that's about a THIRD.....

(if you know how to do math, that is)...

which is your 1/2 mil. $ ranch, right there, dude.


besides, boston is like the size of fr*gg*n BROOKLYN in nyc - TINYYYYYYY.....
ONE BURROUGH!!!!!


so, as for industry, you can't compare....

"yeah, babe, i have a 4 o'clock with my publisher in........marblehead"....yuk, yuk...heh


and who was talkin' METAL, anyhow??? jeeeeez....i HATE that tripe.....


all other nimrod redneck comments, i'll ignore for now.....


....juss keep smokin' that thai stick, buddy...




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Old 1st September 2007
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LOL!
Old 1st September 2007
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I got nothing... I'm still speechless.
Old 1st September 2007
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I was charging $1000 per 8-10 day in New Orleans. That was just the base rate for the room.

I just can't see how Steve's rates could be considered outrageous.
Old 1st September 2007
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thanks for that, slippers of reason.

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