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hey ITB mixers -- what's on your bus? Dynamics Plugins
Old 27th August 2007
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hey ITB mixers -- what's on your bus?

Hi All,

I'm just wondering for the ITB types out there -- are there particular plugs that you strap across the master before you bounce to disk? I'm thinking of software substitutes for things like the API 2500 or FATSO. A few years back is was all Magneto (ugh) and PSP VintageWarmer but I'm wondering what new stuff people are actually using (yes I know waves has a 2500 plug but I'm only interested if someone's using it that way).

Thanks.

--JES
Old 27th August 2007
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I use the Sonalksis compressor across the 2 bus, with an SSL simulation setting. It's really nice to mix with. Have to say though that I take it off when doing the final mix bounce. This leaves my options more open when it comes to mastering.
Old 27th August 2007
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I use one of the following depending on the use: Massey 2007, Sony Oxford Limiter, or MasterX. Since I do post, it is used to mostly for limiting peaks etc, and not so much for a "color" effect.
Old 27th August 2007
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PSP Vintagewarmer for lots of color, plus Wavearts Finalplug if the artist isn't going to mastering.
Old 27th August 2007
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Two Purple MC77's on the Hardware Insert,

Sorry to be an analog a#$!!!!!

Peace
mixwell
Old 27th August 2007
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you insert hardware into the DAW?

So you insert hardware into the daw while it's playing out for your final "print" of the L-R wave onto tape? Or; is it back into the daw as a burnable L-R wave?
Old 27th August 2007
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Sonalksis its a great software compressor
Old 27th August 2007
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It has been the URS 1980 (SSL comp), and occasionally analog channel. I tend to be pretty conservative with them because I have been blending in heavily compressed parallel mixes to add depth.

I just demoed the URS CSP, though, and I am pretty sure its' 30ips tape preset is going to be glued there from now on. It is really convincing.
Old 27th August 2007
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Generally you'll find no plug-ins on my 2 bus.

Ben
Old 27th August 2007
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On my master track, it is generally in this order:
WAVES SSL COMP (simulation comp staging)
WAVES L2
WAVES ANALYZER gota keep my eye on those frequencies!)

I am saving up for the Fatso though, and i will be running out of sends into fatso, then print back into PT.
Old 27th August 2007
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<< Have to say though that I take it off when doing the final mix bounce. >>

You have the comp plugin inserted while you are mixing, then remove it when you print? Huh?????
Old 27th August 2007
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Maybe to see how the track responds to compression without actually committing to it?
Old 27th August 2007
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Ac1
Waves LinMB
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Massey 2007
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Old 27th August 2007
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So you insert hardware into the daw while it's playing out for your final "print" of the L-R wave onto tape? Or; is it back into the daw as a burnable L-R wave?


More often than not, I will print the master buss back onto 2-tracks of my DAW. As you all know, "bouncing" the track with a hardware insert, is a lot like, watching porn,

Feels good when it's happening, but in reality, there is nothing "real" about it!!

The Hardware insert is a feature I have been screwing around with, so my compression does not affect any automation on the Master Buss.

For fade out's and things, nothing more really.

Seems kinda stupid, I know,

It's more of a client thing, I typically keep the outputs of the master buss dry, but when they want a little smack and "glue", I put a compressor on the Hardware insert. A hardware compressor will always sound better than a digital one.


peace
mixwell
Old 27th August 2007
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Alan Smart C1 most of the time on an insert. I don't use a master fader but I buss everything out an set of outputs (Bus 1-2) and return them in an AUX fader. I put the C-1 and whatever eq I might be using and monitor that way. I rarely bounce to disk and usually send that Aux output to a new audio track and print the mixes in the session. That way I can export a bunch of different file formats easier and faster.

Michael Greene
Old 27th August 2007
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UAD Fairchild 670 and Pultec EQ on bypass.

I do set the 670 to no compression before I do the final print before sending it off to be mastered.
There's no substitution for a good mastering engineer with a real high end compressor.
Old 27th August 2007
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I know I'm gonna get crucified for this but when I'm at home working on - budget recordings i still love the T-Racks compressor or maybe the limiter if it's not going to mastering.

+1 for the Sonalksis stuff for home mastering
Old 27th August 2007
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For my personal stuff -

Antares Tube
Ozone Izotope
Waves SSL Stereo Comp
Gliss EQ
S1 Imager
PSP Vintage Warmer
Old 27th August 2007
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I use a Duende stereo channel strip, for low-cut only, plus a UAD Precision Limiter used very lightly.

Sounds pretty good to me.
Old 27th August 2007
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I'm a cheapskate. I don't have any expensive plug packs. But I do have the (64 bit internal) EQ and CompressorX from Sonic Timeworks that came with (I think) Sonar Producer 2. (In addition to a shipload of free plugs, some of them very usable.)

I've yet to find a compressor OR an EQ I like nearly as well for sound and control interface as these two plugs.

Well, actually, CompressorX actually has a straightforward conventional parameter control interface -- but with a full range of controls. But the EQ, OTOH, has two modes, one conventional but there's also a "graphic" mode which features a rubber band interface (where the center points of freq bands show as colored balls [you still change the Q numerically, though]) with the added bonus of an animated spectrum display mapped right below -- so it's super quick/intuitive looking for trouble spots.

And like I said, to my ear, they sound very good.
Old 27th August 2007
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Digidesign Reel Tape Saturation only.


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Old 27th August 2007
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URS CSP sounds awesome! I been using the 15" tape preset. About 2db off the top with the 15" comp as well.
Old 27th August 2007
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Nothing permanent
Old 27th August 2007
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Quote:
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<< Have to say though that I take it off when doing the final mix bounce. >>

You have the comp plugin inserted while you are mixing, then remove it when you print? Huh?????
"Maybe to see how the track responds to compression without actually committing to it?"

Yes, exactly that, I find it nice to have a little 'glue' as I mix, without having it written in stone. I can then put the bus compression back in at the mastering stage if I want to (and have more control). I thought this was a pretty standard way of working!
Old 28th August 2007
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Quote:
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"Maybe to see how the track responds to compression without actually committing to it?"

Yes, exactly that, I find it nice to have a little 'glue' as I mix, without having it written in stone. I can then put the bus compression back in at the mastering stage if I want to (and have more control). I thought this was a pretty standard way of working!
So you are referring to material that you are mastering yourself?? It's my experience that some pretty large elements of your mix would fall apart when you removed the bus comp...
If you are self mastering - are you just inserting to the same plug-in in your mastering chain?

i'd rather commit to the mix with the bus comp then worry about simulating that same compressor later in mastering.

but i also take barely touch my mix bus comp if i even have one on.

-m
Old 28th August 2007
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UAD-1 33609
Old 28th August 2007
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UAD Neve 33609 to check the mix, I never mix with it in usually but I do check the mix with it make sure there is no low end that is messing with me.
Old 28th August 2007
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RVox 6-8 db gain reduction.

L2 2 db gain reduction.

Still sounds wimpy compared to the commercial stuff. Ah, what to do?
Old 28th August 2007
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Are you guys happy using plug-ins on the mix buss?? Are you choosing these over hardware comps?
Old 28th August 2007
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Been digging the URS 1975 comp on the 2 bus

-Scotty
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