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Neumann KM84i, Rode NT1a, Or AT 4050 for drum overheads? Condenser Microphones
Old 21st August 2007
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Neumann KM84i, Rode NT1a, Or AT 4050 for drum overheads?

I am starting a new record today and rented some gear.
I have:
Neumann KM84i, Rode NT1a, and AT 4050 pairs.
What would you recomend for drum Overheads?
The other mics can be used as room mics, hi hat, ride, etc.
The genre is modern hard rock.
Old 21st August 2007
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If you have 2 KMi84's* don't be afraid to pad one out (-10db switch onboard) and try it on snare. Use it in tandem with a dynamic and blend to taste. It really gives the snare snap and captures the fast transients well.

I'd use the other one on ride where it rawks. Some might say HH which they also shine on, but for anything rocky and thrashy, it's almost too clean for HH imho and I prefer something grainy and uglier, like a cheap MC012 for example. the 84's would also work fine as OH's but I'd personally start with the 4050's based on my experience with both these mics.
Old 21st August 2007
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I've used 4050's for Over Heads...they are really great. Never used NT1, but used NT2 and they are great also.

Old 21st August 2007
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Do you mean KM184.
If they are the the 84's
that's an easy one.....
Neumann KM84 all the way!

4050's might be cool using the Glynn Johns setup.
Old 22nd August 2007
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Neumann KM84i Small Diaphragm Cond. (Pair)
I rented them from White Gold Sound System in Chicago.
I've only used larger diaphram mics on overheads like the NT1a and C414 EB.
I will give them a quick shoot out, but I'm kinda under the gun.
Thanks for the feedback!
Old 22nd August 2007
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I've used NT2's on overheads and hats and they sound great, they have a bit of sizzle to them... i had an nt1a lying around too but i didn't end up using it anywhere on the kit... i was going to use it as a room but we ran out of preamps and we already hada very roomy sound anyway.
Old 22nd August 2007
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Thanks guys, were going with the KM84I's.
They sound darker too me, but thats what I was looking for.
I will post some samples soon.
Thanks for your input!
Old 22nd August 2007
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Samples of Neumann KM84i used for Overheads

Here are the samples as promised!

Click HERE!
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