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Old 17th February 2020
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It's been the age of the music video for about 20 or 30 years. "Faces made for radio" is a thing of the past. Now it's almost more important that you can dance.
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Old 17th February 2020
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Lewis Capaldi?!

Looks of course matter, and women are definitely held to a higher standard than men. In all walks of life, and no it’s not fair, and yes I guess slowly changing in some aspects.

Right now the cute little pop puppet look isn’t as “in” as the different, challenging look. Hence the image of those breaking through.

Re Christopher Cross, Elvis isn’t exactly a fair comparison - he was genre defining. There are plenty of successful good looking people from the 70s we don’t really equate to Elvis either!
The Elvis reference is just that being a good looking guy is a major plus in showbiz, and not being a good looking guy is a strike against.

For Billie, she got the nod, the brother got the back seat. Is that fair? Did the brother think even for a second, jeez, why don't I rate? My little sister?

I think that's a pretty common thing and has been for awhile, especially with these sorts of duos. I even brought that up before, women, good looking or otherwise, seem to be more interesting. Why is there no thread about Shawn Mendes or Pitbull or The Jonus Bros? The Lennons and Dylans and McCartneys and Jaggers and Bowies have been replaced by the Madonnas, Beyonces, Billies, Gagas, Swifts, and Rihannas.
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Now it's almost more important that you can dance.
I saw Biebs on SNL a couple of weeks ago - it was really lame; he was lip syncing auto tuned vocals and he was attempting to bust a move, which was even more lame than the lip syncing itself.

Billie on SNL OTOH was a revelation to me, she knocked her performances out of the park.
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Old 17th February 2020
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The Elvis reference is just that being a good looking guy is a major plus in showbiz, and not being a good looking guy is a strike against.
Sure. That's one of the reasons Elvis took over from the chubby 30yo that was Bill Halley. But it's not the ONLY reason we remember him, and it's really not a fair comparison!

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For Billie, she got the nod, the brother got the back seat. Is that fair? Did the brother think even for a second, jeez, why don't I rate? My little sister?
Well -she is the front person! The act is called "BE" not a band name...I don't know if they every tried to call it a project as opposed to a solo act, but if it's a solo act it makes sense to focus on her!

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I think that's a pretty common thing and has been for awhile, especially with these sorts of duos. I even brought that up before, women, good looking or otherwise, seem to be more interesting. Why is there no thread about Shawn Mendes or Pitbull or The Jonus Bros? The Lennons and Dylans and McCartneys and Jaggers and Bowies have been replaced by the Madonnas, Beyonces, Billies, Gagas, Swifts, and Rihannas.
Well, Pitbull I'd argue is self evident...and there's still a lot of mainstream guy artists. In the Serban Ghenea thread, there's been lots of examples of mixing for male acts. Maybe female fronted pop is more "in" right now, but there's still a massive amount of male acts being successful.
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It didn't really work, at least not in the U.S. How many other new aged stars are there? I don't know of any.
It definitely worked in the UK -

From her wiki page:

"Her debut studio album, I Dreamed a Dream, was released in November 2009 and became the UK's best-selling debut album of all time, beating the previous record held by Spirit by Leona Lewis.[5] I Dreamed a Dream set a record for biggest first week sales by a debut album, according to the Official Chart Company in the United Kingdom.[5] Topping the Billboard 200 for six weeks, it was the second best-selling album of 2009 in the US. In her first year of fame, Boyle made £5 million (£6.8 million today) with the release of I Dreamed a Dream and its lead-off singles, "I Dreamed a Dream" and "Wild Horses".[6] The success was continued with her second album, The Gift (2010), where she became only the third act ever to top both the UK and US album charts twice in the same year, and was followed by Boyle's third album, Someone to Watch Over Me (debuted at #1 on UK charts, #4 on US charts), released on 31 October 2011.[7][8] Boyle subsequently released her fourth album Standing Ovation: The Greatest Songs from the Stage (reached #7 in UK, #1 2 in US) in 2012,[9] her fifth album Home for Christmas (fifth consecutive top ten on UK charts) in 2013,[10] and her sixth album Hope (sixth consecutive top twenty on UK and US charts) in 2014.[11]"

To cherry pick that's 2 consecutive US Billboard #1 albums and 2 additional US top 20 albums over 5 years. In addition 25m records sold worldwide.

I'll admit I was surprised, but i don't think you can say she wasn't successful in the States More so than the vast majority of UK acts!

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yeah.

if there's even 1 unattractive pop star to every 100 attractive ones, especially females, I'd be surprised. The days of being popular and unattractive are largely over, the exceptionally rare Susan Boyles aside.
It's very much the exception rather than the rule I agree! Just not impossible.


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How many other new aged stars are there? I don't know of any.
In the pop field - no, it is and always has been a young person's game. You get the odd star getting successful later in their career (David Gray for example), and I think from the cut-off age of 24, it's more possible for someone late 20s to be successful - but it's not a 50yo's game that's for sure!

But in niche genres - country and related stuff (blues, bluegrass, folk etc), and even more mainstream rock - it's possible.
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The latest Rolling Stone has some illuminating numbers on current big artist record deals...

Warner Music Group’s A&R Costs Say a Lot About How Much Labels Need to Spend on Artists in Today’s Music Industry
Interestingly....however, I don't see their massive "Libray" accounted for.

When I would write for certain shows, part of the deal (Including al the publishing, of course) was that the cues would automatically transfer to the Warner music group Library for re-use.

Not that I have a problem with it, on my PRO statement I'll see all kinds of shows and usages that I know nothing about, so keep on hustlin' Warner!

But, I do find it interesting that whole wing isn't accounted for, it seemed like an ATM from my perspective,

Pay some stiff (me) in food stamps to crap out music by the pound, ramrod it into your bowl clogging shows, I've got my "Writers share" on the back end, but they get the publishers share, while also choosing what music to use and
where.

I.E They get a % of the back end too, so they can stuff their shows full cues from their library, make sure cue sheets go right to the PRO's and they get paid on everything.

And I'm not even going to mention the "Stems" they farmed off us for the last 10 years, basically getting us to cut our own throats assembling "Build your own cue" kits for their minimum wage editors...I know they SHOULD be paying for stem use, but I doubt very much that they are (And I think we have a massive class-action lawsuit if we can get everyone on the same page)

My point is, this is a licence to print money with ZERO OPERATING COSTS, sure they can put in new cue orders, but with the library they already have (I personally have 100's of cues in there, now think about how many like me there are, the amount of music is mind-boggling)

As I said, it's an ATM and a revenue stream that I would think Dwarfs any traditional "Artist" type revenues.(Which is more the celebrity/branding business now, not the music business) Buuuut....It's not.

I wonder if they are trying to pull in suckers by inflating the streaming revenues and hoping to get a Golden Parachute to pay their way out of that end of the business.

I personally can't see why a major label would even exist now, Artists need investment but that can come from anywhere, they need publicists, marketers, Atroturfing on-line shills and other phoney "taste-making" fakery that makes the masses eat poo for lunch and pay for the privilege....All of this stuff is usually provided by "specialists" these aren't people who are on staff at a "Major" The majority of expenses (Now that production costs are lower than ever)

I thought that the one thing majors still did was offer the all-important 2-5 million it takes to have a top 40 hit. There is a hefty buy-in necessary in order
to be a top 40 artist (It has nothing to do with people liking your song) But that article seemed to allude to that no longer being as coveted?

The music business, as far as the actual "Business" end is murkier than ever.

At least Billy Elish is obvious, she's a social engineering catalyst, a pied piper meant to model the mentality they want to be instilled in kids.

Oh BTW, this record was not made in a bedroom with her brother, this stuff is ALL FICTION. This goes back to the Beatles model, (They were a product of the Tolstoy institute, as was Allen Watts and other Crowlites...yes they were, go look it up...no really, everything you thought you knew about the Beatles is a lie, GO LOOK IT UP)

Billy Eilish was something they came up with before they found the girl to "play" here, I'm SHOCKED that people still buy this B.S. Its not like the info is hard to find.

I guess people prefer fantasy to the truth.
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Old 17th February 2020
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Well -she is the front person! The act is called "BE" not a band name...I don't know if they every tried to call it a project as opposed to a solo act, but if it's a solo act it makes sense to focus on her!
But it was the brother's manager. And the first song, or songs, were his.

The project is as much his as hers...but he's not even in it. Just would be interesting to know why they didn't do it as a duo, if there was any discussion about that. Even in this thread, people have said he's dull and she's likable.

Like why have it be Sonny and Cher or The Carpenters or The Eurythmics, the guy is of no use, dull, not marketable. Just shut up, bro, and mess with the plugins.

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Well, Pitbull I'd argue is self evident...and there's still a lot of mainstream guy artists. In the Serban Ghenea thread, there's been lots of examples of mixing for male acts. Maybe female fronted pop is more "in" right now, but there's still a massive amount of male acts being successful.
Yes, many male acts, but none of them seem edgy, none of them seem interesting...you've got Kanye, but many think he's just a goof. Ed Sheeran is huge, but does anyone really care what he has to say? Is he a cultural icon like Lennon or Dylan? It's a woman's world, not that they are all that interesting, but more so than the men.
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It's been the age of the music video for about 20 or 30 years. "Faces made for radio" is a thing of the past. Now it's almost more important that you can dance.
That's ALWAYS been important.

Without Jagger being the Gold Standard for Rock n' Roll frontmen, The Stones probably aren't any bigger than the Kinks or the MC5 (Maybe bigger than the MC5)

Speaking of the MC5, both their records and The Stooges were commercial failures (At the time, both bands move units today...amazing if you think about it.) But out of the ashes (And Ashtons), Iggy Pop kept getting chances, he was basically pulled off a Hollywood street corner in drag and in heavy drug psychosis, where he had been homeless, to make "RAW POWER"

R.P was ANOTHER commercial flop, but a couple of years later he's in Berlin making Major label records with Bowie and Lou Reed.

Why not Rob Tyner? Why not Wayne Kramer (Ok, he was in prison)

Because if Jagger was undisputed #1 ...Iggy was the undisputed #2

Both the Jagger and Iggy were afforded attention and opportunities that others would never get, simply because they could shake their asses, get the Girls to want to meet em' and the guys to wish they could be em'

That's the music business.....period.
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In the pop field - no, it is and always has been a young person's game. You get the odd star getting successful later in their career (David Gray for example), and I think from the cut-off age of 24, it's more possible for someone late 20s to be successful - but it's not a 50yo's game that's for sure!
Yeah...so it's farrrrr better to be a fat woman than an old anything.

Thank you Adele: The perks of being a fat woman
Adele has questioned whether her weight has contributed to her success.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...fat-woman.html
Amongst other things, the private songstress muses on her size: “Sometimes” she says, “I’m curious to know if I would have been as successful if I wasn’t plus-size. I think I remind everyone of themselves. Not saying everyone is my size, but it’s relatable because I’m not perfect, and I think a lot of people are portrayed as perfect, unreachable and untouchable.” As someone who would also be described as plus-size, I’m pretty sure she’s right.
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At least Billy Elish is obvious, she's a social engineering catalyst, a pied piper meant to model the mentality they want to be instilled in kids.

Oh BTW, this record was not made in a bedroom with her brother, this stuff is ALL FICTION. This goes back to the Beatles model, (They were a product of the Tolstoy institute, as was Allen Watts and other Crowlites...yes they were, go look it up...no really, everything you thought you knew about the Beatles is a lie, GO LOOK IT UP)

Billy Eilish was something they came up with before they found the girl to "play" here, I'm SHOCKED that people still buy this B.S. Its not like the info is hard to find.

I guess people prefer fantasy to the truth.
Links?
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Yeah...so it's farrrrr better to be a fat woman than an old anything.

Thank you Adele: The perks of being a fat woman
Adele has questioned whether her weight has contributed to her success.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wo...fat-woman.html
Amongst other things, the private songstress muses on her size: “Sometimes” she says, “I’m curious to know if I would have been as successful if I wasn’t plus-size. I think I remind everyone of themselves. Not saying everyone is my size, but it’s relatable because I’m not perfect, and I think a lot of people are portrayed as perfect, unreachable and untouchable.” As someone who would also be described as plus-size, I’m pretty sure she’s right.
And yet, now, headlines this week, the internet is all aflutter because Adele is skinny now, "barely recognizable" some said, and so on.

"To be healthy for her kid" or whatever the PR is. And good for her if she's happy(er), whatever, nothing wrong with being more fit. If she's happier.

Do you think she'll be more or less popular now?
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Do you think she'll be more or less popular now?
I don't know, but having a problem or two, whether it's weight or depression or something, seems like a plus.

Except for being old. That problem still seems really unappealing.
Old 17th February 2020
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But it was the brother's manager. And the first song, or songs, were his.

The project is as much his as hers...but he's not even in it. Just would be interesting to know why they didn't do it as a duo, if there was any discussion about that. Even in this thread, people have said he's dull and she's likable.

Like why have it be Sonny and Cher or The Carpenters or The Eurythmics, the guy is of no use, dull, not marketable. Just shut up, bro, and mess with the plugins.
Maybe he doesn't WANT to be the star? It's definitely as much him as her in terms of musical direction.

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Yes, many male acts, but none of them seem edgy, none of them seem interesting...you've got Kanye, but many think he's just a goof. Ed Sheeran is huge, but does anyone really care what he has to say? Is he a cultural icon like Lennon or Dylan? It's a woman's world, not that they are all that interesting, but more so than the men.
Very few people of any gender or looks get the status of Lennon or Dylan though! A high bar to set.
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This goes back to the Beatles model, (They were a product of the Tolstoy institute, as was Allen Watts and other Crowlites...yes they were, go look it up...no really, everything you thought you knew about the Beatles is a lie, GO LOOK IT UP)
I typed "tolstoy institute beatles" into a search engine & got nothing relevant

where to look it up?
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I typed "tolstoy institute beatles" into a search engine & got nothing relevant

where to look it up?
Perhaps referring to Tavistock Institute?

Silly
Old 17th February 2020
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Interestingly....however, I don't see their massive "Libray" accounted for.

When I would write for certain shows, part of the deal (Including al the publishing, of course) was that the cues would automatically transfer to the Warner music group Library for re-use.

Not that I have a problem with it, on my PRO statement I'll see all kinds of shows and usages that I know nothing about, so keep on hustlin' Warner!

But, I do find it interesting that whole wing isn't accounted for, it seemed like an ATM from my perspective,

Pay some stiff (me) in food stamps to crap out music by the pound, ramrod it into your bowl clogging shows, I've got my "Writers share" on the back end, but they get the publishers share, while also choosing what music to use and
where.

I.E They get a % of the back end too, so they can stuff their shows full cues from their library, make sure cue sheets go right to the PRO's and they get paid on everything.

And I'm not even going to mention the "Stems" they farmed off us for the last 10 years, basically getting us to cut our own throats assembling "Build your own cue" kits for their minimum wage editors...I know they SHOULD be paying for stem use, but I doubt very much that they are (And I think we have a massive class-action lawsuit if we can get everyone on the same page)

My point is, this is a licence to print money with ZERO OPERATING COSTS, sure they can put in new cue orders, but with the library they already have (I personally have 100's of cues in there, now think about how many like me there are, the amount of music is mind-boggling)

As I said, it's an ATM and a revenue stream that I would think Dwarfs any traditional "Artist" type revenues.(Which is more the celebrity/branding business now, not the music business) Buuuut....It's not.

I wonder if they are trying to pull in suckers by inflating the streaming revenues and hoping to get a Golden Parachute to pay their way out of that end of the business.

I personally can't see why a major label would even exist now, Artists need investment but that can come from anywhere, they need publicists, marketers, Atroturfing on-line shills and other phoney "taste-making" fakery that makes the masses eat poo for lunch and pay for the privilege....All of this stuff is usually provided by "specialists" these aren't people who are on staff at a "Major" The majority of expenses (Now that production costs are lower than ever)

I thought that the one thing majors still did was offer the all-important 2-5 million it takes to have a top 40 hit. There is a hefty buy-in necessary in order
to be a top 40 artist (It has nothing to do with people liking your song) But that article seemed to allude to that no longer being as coveted?

The music business, as far as the actual "Business" end is murkier than ever.

At least Billy Elish is obvious, she's a social engineering catalyst, a pied piper meant to model the mentality they want to be instilled in kids.

Oh BTW, this record was not made in a bedroom with her brother, this stuff is ALL FICTION. This goes back to the Beatles model, (They were a product of the Tolstoy institute, as was Allen Watts and other Crowlites...yes they were, go look it up...no really, everything you thought you knew about the Beatles is a lie, GO LOOK IT UP)

Billy Eilish was something they came up with before they found the girl to "play" here, I'm SHOCKED that people still buy this B.S. Its not like the info is hard to find.

I guess people prefer fantasy to the truth.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. So where is yours?

I call BS. You have no inside info and telling people to “look it up” doesn’t have any truth at all.
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I typed "tolstoy institute beatles" into a search engine & got nothing relevant

where to look it up?
Little known fact: the original title was, "Walrus and Peace."

It was an homage - the eggman refers to Tolstoy.
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I typed "tolstoy institute beatles" into a search engine & got nothing relevant.
There's a Tolstoy Foundation near me. They run a nursing home - really sinister...

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where to look it up?
Looking it up" is just a waste of our time. Even if you found a website that made a 'relevant' claim, it would just be just another Illuminati conspiracy bull$#!t website. Such websites are a dime a dozen. Each one claiming a different organization is "behind it all". How can they all be correct? Who cares? What is the track record of such websites? How often have they proved to be correct? How often have they corrected their page after being proven wrong? For that matter, how often have they merely doubled-down when proven wrong?

People who feel scared and powerless gravitate to conspiracy theory because it makes them feel as if they have grabbed a small bit of power "back" from the Them.

I am on to your tricks, Illuminati!

If the illuminati were really The Illuminati - nobody would be "on" to their tricks. Nobody living, anyway. The all-powerful puppet masters who control the world can't shut down a stupid website? Or intercept the manuscript of the book that exposes them?

one. more. time. :
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“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Illuminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.
The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.
The world is rudderless.”
― Alan Moore
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some crazy stuff
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look it up
no. as the monkey pointed out, the ones making the extraordinary claims bear the sole burden of proving those claims to the doubters, not the other way around...

If you say you saw Sasquatch you better bring Hi-Def or 4k video or I'm considering it malarkey, same with Aliens and any other outrageous story or conspiracy.

Bring the proof or get laughed at/doubted.
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This is the GOAT Gearslutz thread. In my almost decade long gearslutz time I never seen a thread rile up gearslutz like this thread has done. The last one that kinda got crazy was the one where Andrew Scheps went full in the box now for his mixing. A thread I made btw lol. Poor Andrew Scheps he was getting killed in that thread and was even being accused of being a sell out for Waves. The man himself eventually came into the thread to speak his piece which was really neat.

This thread now has gone to the twilight zone saying shes illuminati lol wtf? Listen even if she was an industry plant YOU STILL NEED THE HITS!!!!! It doesnt matter how much marketing, mixing, and mastering you do if you dont got a hit you aint making any type of splash, period end of story. Sure you can rig the numbers, views, the grammys and whatever else but at the end of the day its about making hits. I remember another time when it was discovered Usher's "Make Love In This Club" and Rihanna's "Umbrella" was done using Logic stock VI and drum loop. Quite a few people here were disgusted as they felt in some way they were "insulting" craft/art of creating music.

Hits can come from anywhere like Logic, Cubase, FL Studio, Pro Tools, Studer A800, SSL 4000 E, Neve 8014, guitars, real drums, expensive mics, cheap mics, pots and pans, blah, blah they can all create a hit.

Sometimes I feel like music is overrated in the sense that I cant believe people really feel some type of way if cheap gear creates a hit. Like you could have swore that one of their kids got killed or something its pathetic. Its just music its not even that deep. If you wanna be all crazy like Daft Punk when they won album of the year in the Grammy's and use a ridiculous amount of gear to create that album great. You have a certain sonic taste that requires that however if you see the next man create hits or win Grammy's with bedroom studio production which is largely ITB dont hate congratulate. Its just music at the end of the day. We are not doctors, dentists, medical researchers, physicists, or non music engineers now those guys are literally changing the world and some are saving lives. We create entertainment for ourselves and sometimes for others in the process via intentional or not.

Its just music man, enjoy making it, enjoy sharing it, and enjoy creating it with others.
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You have made an argument up in your head and are leading the discourse in this discussion to point to facts that don't exist.
Nobody has said or at least i certainly haven't, that the money man is any more or less significant here than in any other instance.

The point is the thread was from bedroom to grammy.
You couldn't ask the same question of Adele.....its a given and a known that all that was in place..the studios the money man blah blah .

You are the one trying to lean on..."yeah they did it all in their bedroom and then walked into a grammy"

Others have stated the obvious and then you accuse them of just stating that water is wet or something and fall back on your fetish for accusing people of having sour grapes. And then stating that they are singling out BE unfairly.

From a psychological aspect i find it kind of interesting as to what is so appealing about that ... which is one of the reasons I have struggled to stop following
Your description of what I'm thinking is not what I'm actually thinking. Maybe there's really NOTHING interesting or appealing. The kids made a record. The record won Grammys. Some people have butthurt over it. I've already read this thread. Maybe you should.
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Know nothing to be true, even rumors
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Old 17th February 2020
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A lot of this thread has been bile-ish.
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The Truth about Billie E

Not from bedroom to stardom

https://youtu.be/_T87vtClP_k
Old 17th February 2020
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It's got the right sound for the times, but can one say it was done in the bedroom, not sure, but it might as well of been. No reason why not.

Couldn't do the 60s ones in a bedroom, or Live And Let Die...you could, but they wouldn't sound the same.
There were strings and more added-

behind the scenes look at the making of “No Time To Die” at the AIR studios in london

Halfway through, we’re hit with that signature Zimmer sound. Tension builds with repeated ostinato strings, and a drumbeat enters. Full Zimmer.
Hans Zimmer.

Theres all the bond tunes online, I was going through them all.
This new one is great. I think they captured the traditional theme vibe.

Zimmer (Pirates of the Caribbean, Gladiator) took on the soundtrack just months before its release date, taking the reins from previous composer Dan Romer who was dismissed over “creative differences”, Variety reported.

The four-minute ballad — a haunting song of betrayal and despair co-written by Eilish and her older brother, Finneas, and performed to an orchestral arrangement — was posted to YouTube and various music streaming sites on Thursday.

The recording, itself titled No Time to Die, was produced by Finneas with a musical arrangement by Hans Zimmer and Matt Dunkley. The track was released by Eilish's Interscope Records/Darkroom label and includes veteran British session musician Johnny Marr on guitar.
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I think that's a pretty common thing and has been for awhile, especially with these sorts of duos. I even brought that up before, women, good looking or otherwise, seem to be more interesting. Why is there no thread about Shawn Mendes or Pitbull or The Jonus Bros? The Lennons and Dylans and McCartneys and Jaggers and Bowies have been replaced by the Madonnas, Beyonces, Billies, Gagas, Swifts, and Rihannas.
Males dominate the hot 100 year in and out. Gearslutz topics are a metric of nothing except gearsluts topics (which even then are considerably more about men from what i see? So not sure where this line of gripes even comes from.)

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Old 17th February 2020
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Originally Posted by Poopypants View Post
I've already read this thread. Maybe you should.
Aha now it makes sense...you simply enjoy a good dose of schadenfreude.
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Old 17th February 2020
  #1408
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Originally Posted by ZEF View Post
There were strings and more added-

behind the scenes look at the making of “No Time To Die” at the AIR studios in london

Halfway through, we’re hit with that signature Zimmer sound. Tension builds with repeated ostinato strings, and a drumbeat enters. Full Zimmer.
Hans Zimmer.

Theres all the bond tunes online, I was going through them all.
This new one is great. I think they captured the traditional theme vibe.

Zimmer (Pirates of the Caribbean, Gladiator) took on the soundtrack just months before its release date, taking the reins from previous composer Dan Romer who was dismissed over “creative differences”, Variety reported.

The four-minute ballad — a haunting song of betrayal and despair co-written by Eilish and her older brother, Finneas, and performed to an orchestral arrangement — was posted to YouTube and various music streaming sites on Thursday.

The recording, itself titled No Time to Die, was produced by Finneas with a musical arrangement by Hans Zimmer and Matt Dunkley. The track was released by Eilish's Interscope Records/Darkroom label and includes veteran British session musician Johnny Marr on guitar.
They’re not “bedroom for life” as if it’s some kind of principal they hold on to, that was just the reality of their situation when they were low budget artists given the few-year test, like most major label signings these days.

Finneas has said he worked out of the bedroom due to necessity and it’s not some narrative he’s going to try to maintain, he’s happy to work however.

Of course the Bond theme isn’t bedroom, some people read way into things sometimes. Not everything is an ideology to fight for, sometimes they’re just a description of a phase of the journey. Now that they have infinite resources they’ll work wherever and however they please.
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Old 17th February 2020
  #1409
Here for the gear
 

Marketing Matters!

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Originally Posted by cyjanopan View Post
They spent all that money on marketing, no wonder they had to use AT2020

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.c...lobal-success/
That's a very good read...
Old 17th February 2020
  #1410
Gear Nut
 

Although I'm no fan of her music, I simply can't understand all the hate here. Most of it seems like it's coming from middle aged guys who are still bitter that playing some cover band that plays stuff from 75-85 at the local sports bar is the best it ever got for themselves. You clearly don't understand what appeals to the youngs, nowadays. But I'm sure you can rock that Bad Company song, so at least you have that.
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