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Query Regarding These "Patch Bays" - Can Anyone Take A Look?
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Query Regarding These "Patch Bays" - Can Anyone Take A Look?

I got 4 patch bays given to me for free. I was not specifically looking for them because I didn't think I needed one for my setup, however I am told it should make things more convenient. I didn't think I had researched how to use them enough so far to warrant chasing them though. Since they were free, I will give them a shot though.

However, obviously I would only need one for my setup. Also, there appear to be 2 types, 2 of each. I believe 2 of them are not suitable for audio / recording studio purposes?

I included a pic showing the front and rear of each type. Can anyone let me know what the differences are and which are suitable for studio use?

The rear sides look very different on each type.

In fact, are any of these actually studio patch bays? I never heard of this brand and I got it from a place that was not a music studio. I mean they sure look like them...

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Am I correct in thinking that 2 of these are TRS for audio use and the other 2 are for something else (maybe video?)???
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Two are TRS and could totally be used for studios, the others are video patchbays for BNC connectors. The one with the back showing on the right is the audio one.
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Two are TRS and could totally be used for studios, the others are video patchbays for BNC connectors. The one with the back showing on the right is the audio one.
Thanks so much.
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Two are TRS and could totally be used for studios, the others are video patchbays for BNC connectors. The one with the back showing on the right is the audio one.
By the way, I am no electronics guy but it looks like all the wiring has been stripped off. Do I need to re-wire this in order to use it and solder new wiring to it?

Thanks again.
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Yes, they need to be rewired. There are plenty of afordable options for pre-wired patch bays these days. I like the Samson S-patch plus.
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Yes, they need to be rewired. There are plenty of afordable options for pre-wired patch bays these days. I like the Samson S-patch plus.
Thanks. Right. Seems not worth the hassle to save a bit of money. I could earn the amount for a patch bay many times over by the time I learned how to even think about wiring that up.

Thanks for the link. Would this one be comparable?

https://www.thomann.de/intl/hk/neutr...p_patchbay.htm

That would be easy to get since I am making a bigger order from there already.

It's also only 1u whereas these free ones I got waste 2u!

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Thanks. Right. Seems not worth the hassle to save a bit of money. I could earn the amount for a patch bay many times over by the time I learned how to even think about wiring that up.

Thanks for the link. Would this one be comparable?

https://www.thomann.de/intl/hk/neutr...p_patchbay.htm

That would be easy to get since I am making a bigger order from there already.

It's also only 1u whereas these free ones I got waste 2u!
The Samson is switchable on the front, Neutrik one is half-normalled all the way
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The Samson is switchable on the front, Neutrik one is half-normalled all the way
Ah okay, thanks!
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The difference is that the ones in the photo are definitely PRO, as in "heavy duty". Cheap patchbays can be a real PIA in the long run (intermittent jacks, etc). As we do not know what your rig consists of, it's hard to say whether a patchbay is really a good investment.
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The difference is that the ones in the photo are definitely PRO, as in "heavy duty". Cheap patchbays can be a real PIA in the long run (intermittent jacks, etc). As we do not know what your rig consists of, it's hard to say whether a patchbay is really a good investment.
Ah I see. That's a good point I guess. The downside to them is that they're 2u and they need work. Not to mention I am not sure if I even want to use a patch bay since I have only setup a studio to record my own band. I am not likely to change things around a ton on the fly. I have around 12 pieces of gear so far and I don't plan on having much more anytime in the foreseeable future.
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The Samson is switchable on the front, Neutrik one is half-normalled all the way
The Neutrik normalling is configurable by reversing the boards....it's pretty simple if a little fiddly.

The Behringer PX3000 is available at Thomann for similar price to that Neutrik and has normal switching on the top and people seem to quite like it.

Don't think that Neutrik is anything special because of the name....it's likely a generic Chinese made bay with their name on. In fact, the Thomann own brand patchbay is clearly from the same factory.

https://www.thomann.de/intl/hk/the_s...8_patchbay.htm
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Thanks. Right. Seems not worth the hassle to save a bit of money. I could earn the amount for a patch bay many times over by the time I learned how to even think about wiring that up.

Thanks for the link. Would this one be comparable?

https://www.thomann.de/intl/hk/neutr...p_patchbay.htm

That would be easy to get since I am making a bigger order from there already.

It's also only 1u whereas these free ones I got waste 2u!

Yes, certainly comparable. The only real benefit to the Samson is that it features it's wiring configuration from the front panel (normalled/half-normaled/through) this setting is what determines the routing of the jacks. The samson is the only model I know if with this on the front. Most require you to un-rack and open up. Behringer patch bays I have seen have a switch on the top, so you still have to un-rack.

It's been handy for me on multiple occasions to have ready access.
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