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Best workhorse instrument mic for under $500?
Old 4th June 2007
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Best workhorse instrument mic for under $500?

i am looking for a general purpose mic for a wide variety of instrumental applications - mostly stuff like violins, cellos, woodwinds, horns, odd percussion, etc. so, i am especially looking for a rather mellow sounding mic with a generally flat freq response curve. i have some other nice mics that i use for acoustic guitar and other sources where i want a bit of high end emphasis. i need something smooth that can capture a piccolo, solo violin, or trumpet without shredding my monitors.

i am considering all types of mics:

perhaps a ribbon? cascade fathead, shinybox 46mxl, beyer 160, others?

perhaps a nice dynamic? senn MD441? others?

perhaps a SD condenser? a used akg c460, new DPA 4090, cant think of many others in this price range that might actually be flat enough...

perhaps a LD condenser? AT4050, adk hamburg, TLM193, others?

right now, i am leaning towards a 441...

thanks for your thoughts.
Old 4th June 2007
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perhaps a nice dynamic? senn MD441? others?


right now, i am leaning towards a 441...
i think you're leaning in a good direction.

-ryan
Old 4th June 2007
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If you want a "mellow" sound that's good for strings, woodwinds, and horns....it sounds like you're talking about a ribbon. I've only had extensive experience with the Royers...and I love them on a lot of different sources.

Dynamic would be the next choice if you're looking for a softer top end....
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Old 4th June 2007
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dood if you have no 421's you better get some!!!
all around great mic
Old 4th June 2007
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add the shure ksm32 to your list to consider.
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i'd check these out if i were you.
michael does really nice work.

http://www.oktavamod.com/index.html
Old 4th June 2007
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I use a Hamburg all the time on strings, vox and room. Very flat and very mellow.

The guys at ADK sent me a matched pair of Hamburgs and I'm looking forward to trying them on OH.

I love that mic. Plus they couldn't be better at customer service.

Love those guys/mics.
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Heil PR40
Old 4th June 2007
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sm57???

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414
Old 4th June 2007
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i need something smooth that can capture a piccolo, solo violin, or trumpet without shredding my monitors.
AEA R84.

Done.

War
Old 4th June 2007
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GREAT deal!

Warren your selling AEA R84's for under $500.00?
Old 4th June 2007
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Oops, I guess I took the "best" mic in my mind for those applications and forgot about the $500 part. Oh well, a ribbon is a good direction methinks!

There is another dimension of space where those mics are available at that price, although it's hard to explain how you can enter it. Also, it's a different dimension of time as well and the two rarely converge. Hmm...maybe we could do a deal where you get the mic at half price, but you have to buy two. In the end though, we only ship one mic. Would that work?

War heh
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Hmm...maybe we could do a deal where you get the mic at half price, but you have to buy two. In the end though, we only ship one mic. Would that work?
i'd want two halves of two mics, reassembled to function as one. then i'd go for it.
Old 4th June 2007
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Heil PR40
Another vote here for the HeilPR40 eats most of the mics for breakfest that has been metioned here totally great value for the price.
Old 5th June 2007
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Oops, I guess I took the "best" mic in my mind for those applications and forgot about the $500 part. Oh well, a ribbon is a good direction methinks!

There is another dimension of space where those mics are available at that price, although it's hard to explain how you can enter it. Also, it's a different dimension of time as well and the two rarely converge. Hmm...maybe we could do a deal where you get the mic at half price, but you have to buy two. In the end though, we only ship one mic. Would that work?

War heh
You can't buy this kind of comedy.
Old 5th June 2007
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shure sm7 good workhorse
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War's been building those plastic airplanes again!!
Old 5th June 2007
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Why only one mic for $500?

How about two?

KSM141
EV 635a (used)

And maybe some beer too?

Laters,
Pfhuck
Old 5th June 2007
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I will take up Warren on the offer of an AEA R84 for $500, thanks War! heh

Failing that, the MD441 is the best mic I've bought under $1000.

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add the shure ksm32 to your list to consider.
Old 5th June 2007
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Think about an SM81 too....

Though the Heil is a good answer.....



-tINY

Old 5th June 2007
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Has anybody mentioned the Peluso CEMC6 with interchangeable capsules
Now that's versatile.
Old 5th June 2007
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Every time someone asks for mic advice, some flood of good intended mic discussion starts.

I do have them all, 421's, 441's, 160's, lots of LDC's, SDC's, classic mics from over 50 years old, rare mics like D14S and Beyer M61.

But when I read the openingpost there is one thing that comes to mind: a ribbon and to be specific, a brighter sounding ribbon like the Beyer M160.

Though an MD441 can sound pretty ribbon like. thumbsup
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sm57???

As a WORKHORE would definitely Say the 57...

It keeps surprising me year after year.

I have recorded many acoustic guitars with Vave mics and large condensers side by side with a 57 and when I mute all and listen to each in the mix I am shocked the amount of times the 57 wins????

AND VOCALS too... Plus Guit cabs .. sound great with a telecaster going into a Fender Twin.

Snare, Piano ...

Just the other day I had a new customer come in and put 4 mics up

A Rode K2, NT2 and Valve Classic 1 and the 57....
I chose the 57.....in the mix...ON vocals

The K2 mixed with a little 57 sound good too.....

A very under rated mic by the masses but revered by the ones who know.

Plus you can hit a drummer over the head repeatedly and they still sound great.

Oh yeah and 421s
Old 5th June 2007
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Well, try your 57 on a great sounding violin, next to a really nice ribbon mic.
Old 6th June 2007
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Under $500 ????
Old 8th June 2007
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Well, try your 57 on a great sounding violin, next to a really nice ribbon mic.


I agree, I do mean in the mix... if you want a nicely focused acoustic instrument in the front of a mix or soloed I would not choose the 57
they tend to be a bit noisy with a lot of gain...unlike 421s... and to overcome the noise you need to have them very close which a close mic-ed sound may not be desirable..



On the other hand stereo mic-ing with a 57 and a more sensitive mice can have some nice results.....only blending a small amount of the 57....
Old 8th June 2007
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IMO, if your going for a dynamic, I find the 421 to be more of a workhorse than the 441.

Pound for pound, my 421s get a lot more use than my 441, but when the right source comes along, they are f*cking great mics.

My 2p.

Oz
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