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mixer group routing
Old 14th July 2018
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mixer group routing

Hey everybody,

Do most lower end consoles automatically route the groups to the stereo bus by default, or does this require patching?

I picked up a big mixer, a yamaha rm800, recently to route synths/set monitor mixes/twiddle knobs on and I am a bit confused about its routing

My understanding was that I would use the assign switches on the inputs to create mix groups, so i could set the relative levels/pan using the channel fader/pot and then set the overall group output on the stereo bus using the group faders.

This appears not to be the case. I checked a block diagram which seemed to confirm this, that the only way to put a signal on to the stereo bus is assigning an input channel directly, or assigning an aux return. So as a workaround, I sent the group outs to the aux returns and assigned these to the stereo bus.

I guess this makes sense, but it does seem a little inconvenient to have to patch the groups to the aux returns even when i dont need any processing in between.

Also, since I can assign the aux returns to any group, i could assign a group back to itself, which seems like it would cause some serious weirdness. any idea what would happen if I did this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Old 14th July 2018
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I'll be danged if I can find the sub group paths to the ST bus. (Assuming pilot error here... :>)
How about the subs default to the ST bus, and sub'd channels remain unassigned to the ST bus?
Old 14th July 2018
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I'll be danged if I can find the sub group paths to the ST bus. (Assuming pilot error here... :>)
How about the subs default to the ST bus, and sub'd channels remain unassigned to the ST bus?

That is what I thought as well, but I haven't been able to get it to work that way.
I'm worried it may be broken

Has anybody ever used a board where groups had to be sent to the stereo bus via the aux returns like this?
Old 20th July 2018
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bump?

anybody ever seen an inline console where groups weren't automatically routed to the stereo bus?
Old 20th July 2018
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Originally Posted by dylacmac View Post
bump?

anybody ever seen an inline console where groups weren't automatically routed to the stereo bus?
This is unusual but not unknown. Looking at the block diagram it seems the groups are intended to go straight to 8 track tape. I think the expectation is that the tape return from those tracks is used for monitoring and it relies on the switching in the tape machine to select either source (sub groups) or recorded signal. Set the monitor switch to tape o the 8 channels with tape returns connected.

Cheers

Ian
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