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Neumann u89 as drum overheads
Old 3 weeks ago
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Neumann u89 as drum overheads

Hello fellow slutz,
I have been searching for audio samples of the Neumann u89's as drum overheads ?
Ive searched all over youtube and beyond, but to no avail :-(
Could anyone point me in the right direction perhaps ?
And I haven't seen a u89 clone ?
Any suggestions on that ?

Last edited by dreckdirect; 3 weeks ago at 12:47 AM.. Reason: Adding another point
Old 3 weeks ago
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Have you heard a TLM170?
It sounds pretty much the same.
Old 3 weeks ago
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sounds really good as OH, plus is more flexible pattern wise - more "flat" that an 87 for example
Old 3 weeks ago
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Very neutral mic. And overall very flexible. Some added subtle transformer heft compared to it's brothers the tlm170 and tlm193.
Old 3 weeks ago
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It's been a while but I've used them as overheads. They are neutral but they do have some Neumann mojo, at least the kind Neumann has with their transformer-balanced mics. I remember them as being something like an old 87 with the "color knob" turned down: the characteristic midrange Neumann "thing" (U67, KM84, old 87's, etc.) is there but less so. They took EQ well - I liked them!

I also did a lot of voiceover with a U89 (one of the pair I used for overheads on a different session). It was nice and flat for VO. The client requested it on subsequent sessions, actually. I remember not having to EQ it much at all for this purpose.

So I'd say this: the U89 is useful as-is for VO work and can be molded into something more colorful for rock n' roll if desired.
Old 3 weeks ago
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I came across someone selling two of them in wooden boxes with two shock mounts in great condition for $2500
I should have them next week.
I will upload audio files of drums,guitar and vocals :-)
Old 3 weeks ago
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Originally Posted by dreckdirect View Post
I came across someone selling two of them in wooden boxes with two shock mounts in great condition for $2500
I should have them next week.
I will upload audio files of drums,guitar and vocals :-)
Nice deal congrats. 89's pickup the details and are well built quality mics. Maybe not the goto rock and roll mic but most other genres will like what they deliver.
I have no problem using 89 on acoustic instruments, piano, percussion, floor tom, and some vox. Looking forward to hear a pair on drum OH.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Nice deal congrats. 89's pickup the details and are well built quality mics. Maybe not the goto rock and roll mic but most other genres will like what they deliver.
I have no problem using 89 on acoustic instruments, piano, percussion, floor tom, and some vox. Looking forward to hear a pair on drum OH.
I do original soul music, so this should work out nicely.
Once I learn a mic and know it's habits, I can always tweak here and there if need be.
I was attracted to the u89 because of how flat it is.
I'm a fan of hearing the source,
If I need to cut or boost, so be it,
But initially I want the source sound.
I use all real instruments in my music.
I am initially going to use them as my drum OH's, but I want to test one of them on acoustic guitars and vocals, if it sounds the way I remember years ago when trying them, I'll pick up another one for vocals, so I can keep the oh's where they are :-)
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Last edited by dreckdirect; 3 weeks ago at 01:51 PM.. Reason: Only one picture is uploading?
Old 2 weeks ago
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I do original soul music, so this should work out nicely.
Once I learn a mic and know it's habits, I can always tweak here and there if need be.
I was attracted to the u89 because of how flat it is.
I'm a fan of hearing the source,
If I need to cut or boost, so be it,
But initially I want the source sound.
I use all real instruments in my music.
I am initially going to use them as my drum OH's, but I want to test one of them on acoustic guitars and vocals, if it sounds the way I remember years ago when trying them, I'll pick up another one for vocals, so I can keep the oh's where they are :-)
I think you'll like them. I have one and it's my go to for so many things.

Regards,

Ty Ford
Old 1 week ago
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I used to use the TLM 193 on overheads a lot, great for when I needed something mellow and smooth. Similar mic, same capsule. Very flat sounding compared to other modern Neumanns. I quite preferred it!
Old 1 week ago
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I bought them and they are marvelous !!!
Here are the U89's as drum OH's, Akg D112 on kick
and stereo acoustic guitars, i am in love lol
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U89 Drums.mp3 (1.78 MB, 541 views)

U89 Guitars.mp3 (4.79 MB, 509 views)

Old 1 week ago
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I bought them and they are marvelous !!!
Here are the U89's as drum OH's, Akg D112 on kick
and stereo acoustic guitars, i am in love lol
That drum has a lot of mojo, man. And the guitar is just wondefull... How did you work in the guitar... how did you process them?
Old 1 week ago
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That drum has a lot of mojo, man. And the guitar is just wondefull... How did you work in the guitar... how did you process them?
In this order
1 Channel EQ to Cut some frequencies
2 VEQ3 to cut and boost frequencies
4 Linear Phase EQ to add a tiny bit of low end
5 Trueverb Reverb.
Im sure i could simplify this and only use one channel eq and the VEQ3, but it was late and i got last lol.
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Old 1 week ago
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I bought them and they are marvelous !!!
Here are the U89's as drum OH's, Akg D112 on kick
and stereo acoustic guitars, i am in love lol
Sounds great, good buy!
Old 1 week ago
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Sounds great, good buy!
Thank you andersmv :-)
Old 1 week ago
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Thank you andersmv :-)
I keep thinking about snagging a pair of TLM 193's again, but then I see used prices for U89's and keep telling myself to hold off. I'll end up with a pair of U89's at some point, they always sound great to me!
Old 1 week ago
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That drum has a lot of mojo, man. And the guitar is just wondefull... How did you work in the guitar... how did you process them?
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Sounds great, good buy!


Uh oh !!!!!!!
I made a big mistake and uploaded the wrong guitar files lol
I've been doing so many tests that I got them mixed up completely.
The two audio samples I uploaded are the marked u89 drums, and u89 guitars,
The u89 guitars sample is actually the Audio Technica 4033a mic******
I am turning the studio on now to upload the Real u89 guitar files.
So sorry, I'm an idiot.
Bare with me.....
AT4033a GUITARS https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...3a-guitars.mp3
U89 GUITARS https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...89-guitars.mp3
U89 DRUMS https://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...-u89-drums.mp3
Old 1 week ago
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I think you'll like them. I have one and it's my go to for so many things.

Regards,

Ty Ford
Ty Ford I Love them, you were right lol
They are amazing, that neutral sound is what I've always wanted.
I can add anything after the fact.
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