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Am I driving this too hard? (GAP 573)
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Am I driving this too hard? (GAP 573)

Hi friends

I made a similar Thread already, but wanted to make another one with audio examples just to be sure. I just bought my second GAP 573, so I can use them in stereo for my overheads. (got a WA12 MK2 for my snare too.. wohoooo) ;-)

And I am still not sure if I am driving them too hard, if you look at the waveforms you can see that they are chopped on top. If I back of one click the transients behave normal, but it doesn't sound that thick.
Is it normal to drive a pre that hot? Or should I take it down a notch?

Thanks in advance
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Old 1 week ago
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One of I think biggest problems with Daw's people start mixing ,compressing, Eq'ing ,recording with there eyes instead of there ears.

In other words doesn't make a damn what a wave form looks like , it's what it sounds like .
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Be careful with the gap 73. They are usually wired out of phase.
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Be careful with the gap 73. They are usually wired out of phase.
It`s a 573. It`s an EQ, not the preamp.

As for the OP, I don`t hear any indication of anything driven to hard. The 2 samples sound different, obviously different EQ settings. Nothing wrong as far as signal.
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One of I think biggest problems with Daw's people start mixing ,compressing, Eq'ing ,recording with there eyes instead of there ears.

In other words doesn't make a damn what a wave form looks like , it's what it sounds like .
I know, you are so right. And actually I really like how it sounds. It's just that fear of doing something "wrong"

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As for the OP, I don`t hear any indication of anything driven to hard. The 2 samples sound different, obviously different EQ settings. Nothing wrong as far as signal.
Thank you very much. The two examples sound different cause one is my right and one my left OH mic. No eq involved at all ;-)
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It`s a 573. It`s an EQ, not the preamp.

As for the OP, I don`t hear any indication of anything driven to hard. The 2 samples sound different, obviously different EQ settings. Nothing wrong as far as signal.
Nu-tra is right regarding the phase issues of the gap, though.
Although this might not be related to what the OP is experiencing.

Anyway it's clear that the OP is referring to the the preamp..
I don't know how you could track overheads with an eq otherwise..

I suspect that after that point (pushing the gain more) the 573 saturates much more therefore the thicker sound (and the waveform taking the hit).. If this is normal with that preamp I don't know, I don't own one, but some sort of saturation from the xformers is what most people are looking for in a neve (in this case an cheap clone) module.

just my 0,02$,

Cheu

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Nu-tra is right regarding the phase issues of the gap, though.
Although this might not be related to what the OP is experiencing.

Anyway it's clear that the OP is referring to the the preamp..
I don't know how you could track overheads with an eq otherwise..

I suspect that after that point (pushing the gain more) the 573 saturates much more therefore the thicker sound (and the waveform taking the hit).. If this is normal with that preamp I don't know, I don't own one, but some sort of saturation from the xformers is what most people are looking for in a neve (in this case an cheap clone) module.

just my 0,02$,

Cheu
Yeah, you`re probably right. I just saw the "573" and assumed he was having issues with the eq.
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Hi friends

I made a similar Thread already, but wanted to make another one with audio examples just to be sure. I just bought my second GAP 573, so I can use them in stereo for my overheads. (got a WA12 MK2 for my snare too.. wohoooo) ;-)

And I am still not sure if I am driving them too hard, if you look at the waveforms you can see that they are chopped on top. If I back of one click the transients behave normal, but it doesn't sound that thick.
Is it normal to drive a pre that hot? Or should I take it down a notch?

Thanks in advance
You might want to try spectral foldback. It worked for me.
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One of I think biggest problems with Daw's people start mixing ,compressing, Eq'ing ,recording with there eyes instead of there ears.

In other words doesn't make a damn what a wave form looks like , it's what it sounds like .
And PLAYING of course. That's the main one. The grid is a soul killer.
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It`s a 573. It`s an EQ, not the preamp.

As for the OP, I don`t hear any indication of anything driven to hard. The 2 samples sound different, obviously different EQ settings. Nothing wrong as far as signal.
The 573 is the Pre73 in 500 series format.

As for being wired "out of phase", that just means it's a different pin "hot". I forget which way round it usually is, but some gear differs.
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