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Tannoy Dual Concentric Studio Monitors - Advice Please!
Old 6th March 2017
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Tannoy Dual Concentric Studio Monitors - Advice Please!

Hi, I'm Fred Speckeen and I work as part of the Innovation team at Tannoy/Music Group. I'm really happy to be able to say that after so many years that FINALLY we are able to return to designing new studio monitors using Tannoy Dual Concentric Drivers.

Please can you help? We would like to hear of your experience as well as hear your advice on where you think we should focus our efforts. For example: do you own or do you use Tannoy Dual Concentric monitors? What models? What do you like about them? What would you improve? What would you like to see from us in the future?

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

Fred
Old 23rd September 2017
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Reboot DMT12 monitors. Those were awesome. Keep them passive. LOL.
Old 24th September 2017
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Owner of Little Gold 12 and PBM6.5 here.
The LGM in smaller diameter, more responsive set would be nice.
Old 24th September 2017
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I used to own FSM and SRM10B over the past 20yrs, as well as I was working with Little Reds (in a different enclosure) for some time.
I always felt happy with any of them, mixes translated well and the stereoimage was nice and stable. The SRM10B had a cheesy crossover which held back a lot of the potential of that speaker. Same with the Little Reds. Our pair had a new crossover and that was a major improvement.

So if you decide to relaunch Monitors, then make sure that the beancounters in your company don´t mess with parts quality in such important spots.
Old 24th September 2017
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Hi, I'm Fred Speckeen and I work as part of the Innovation team at Tannoy/Music Group. I'm really happy to be able to say that after so many years that FINALLY we are able to return to designing new studio monitors using Tannoy Dual Concentric Drivers.

Please can you help? We would like to hear of your experience as well as hear your advice on where you think we should focus our efforts. For example: do you own or do you use Tannoy Dual Concentric monitors? What models? What do you like about them? What would you improve? What would you like to see from us in the future?

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

Fred
Hey Fred. I regularly use the system 215s. Can I contact you via email?
Old 1st May 2018
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Hi, I'm Fred Speckeen and I work as part of the Innovation team at Tannoy/Music Group. I'm really happy to be able to say that after so many years that FINALLY we are able to return to designing new studio monitors using Tannoy Dual Concentric Drivers.

Please can you help? We would like to hear of your experience as well as hear your advice on where you think we should focus our efforts. For example: do you own or do you use Tannoy Dual Concentric monitors? What models? What do you like about them? What would you improve? What would you like to see from us in the future?

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

Fred
Hi Fred!
I mix for the 2x Grammy Winning group Arrested Development and a host of others.

Been using the Tannoy Active 8's in my studio for 13 years at least. Love them.

I love their clarity and detail. They always felt very natural too me. Too be honest I am not sure what can be improved on them. From a marketing standpoint cosmetically they can probably be updated to look more modern.

I'd be happy to demo anything you guys are working on in the future.

Hope all is well.
peace
JJ
Old 1st May 2018
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I don’t use tannoy in the studio, but for years I have used the V series dual concentric boxes for sound reinforcement and I am very happy with them.
Old 1st May 2018
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Been away from Tannoy's for a while ...

I did work on the ML-10 with the Doug Sax mod. Driven with a mod'd Yamaha amp ... Excellent.
Old 1st May 2018
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I've built my own active mains around a pair of K3149 (LRM/LGM drivers) with a couple of Volt radials doing bass duties.

So I'd like to see active 10", 12" and 15" with and without woofers. Basically modern versions of the '80s SRM line up but I really see (hear?) the value of removing low bass from the DualConcentrics.

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Old 1st May 2018
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The Ellipse IDP monitors were amazing and could go toe to tow with the big boys
Old 4th May 2018
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Fred this is great. I would like you guys to focus on an excellent time based response as well as frequency response with fast decay rates at low frequencies. A good off axis response with a wide sweet spot. Brackets for mounting for 3d audio applications. Something like Genelecs GLM . No rear port. Down to 25 hz ? Don't mind if they're big.
Old 4th May 2018
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have been using a tannoy 5.1 set-up for ca. 25 years.
system10dmt + sub15 (active sub, came later)

pls make dmt's again! make both passive and active versions, passive versions switchable for bi-amping, speakon inputs, active versions with lab/lake built in, with analog, aes and dante inputs (analog on combo, aes on xlr and bnc), make a dmt 3-way speaker (coax hi/mid, low whatever design but go low enough)!

publish precise specs, reintroduce sub15 with enhancements (i replaced mine with kh810) or make dmt subs (of different sizes/speaker diameters), have lake/lab integration including measurement options, make a lab/lake studio monitor controller, add 'target curves', have some programmable buttons/knobs on the controller.

would help to cut down my equipment (yamaha dme64n/icp1, my-lake, dlp, lm44, lab c20:8) quite a bit...



anyway, pls tell us where to send the invoice...

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Old 15th July 2018
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I have the Lancaster dual concentric gold 15 inch monitors since new. I bought them in London in 1969, 49 years ago. I enjoy the sound clarity and sound distinction these speakers produce. The reproduction of sound of each musical instrument is breathtaking, as is voice reproduction. i am completely satisfied with these speakers as they are.

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Old 16th July 2018
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Hi,
I use a pair of Tannoy 215 DMTIIs. Very recently I decided to bi-amp them with a pair of Amphion 500s.
Also, I obtained a DEQX HDP-4 preamp. After messing around with the crossover for a while I landed on 1.5khz with a relatively steep slope using linear phase filters. I ended up there just by eyeballing the speaker response and choozing a zone where both the drivers and the tweeter were relatively flat. I know that the original crossover had different slopes on the driver and tweeter but that was not available in the HDP-4.

After time aligning the speakers through the DEQX the sound is STUNNING. I would be happy to pit these against anything available today at any price.
Absolutely love these speakers and listening to anything through them is a pleasure.
c.
Old 16th July 2018
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Spent many years working on the Tannoy 215 DMTIIs.

I forget the details, but they were bi-amp'd. [Hafler's and then QSC's]
Old 19th July 2018
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If you bi-amped 215s does that imply you used to run them 2way rather than 3way?

Personally I'd run them as 3ways. The DualConcentric is much cleaner when it doesn't have to do low bass.
Old 19th July 2018
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If you bi-amped 215s does that imply you used to run them 2way rather than 3way?

Personally I'd run them as 3ways. The DualConcentric is much cleaner when it doesn't have to do low bass.
Old 19th July 2018
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If you bi-amped 215s does that imply you used to run them 2way rather than 3way?

Personally I'd run them as 3ways. The DualConcentric is much cleaner when it doesn't have to do low bass.
Honestly ... that was 20+ years ago. I just don't recall the amping details.
Old 19th July 2018
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If you bi-amped 215s does that imply you used to run them 2way rather than 3way?

Personally I'd run them as 3ways. The DualConcentric is much cleaner when it doesn't have to do low bass.
Not sure what you mean. There are only two posts HF and LF. In order to amp them three ways you would need to unwire the speakers (the two drivers and the tweeter). I have not done that.

If you are suggesting using a stand-alone sub - I never use subs.

c.
Old 19th July 2018
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The 215s have two settings on their crossover which Tannoy called 'LF window' for some reason. This can be either in or out.
In one of those settings it runs as a 2way ie the extra woofer runs in parallel to the DC cone. In the other setting the extra woofer gets all frequencies below 250Hz (I think), the DC cone 250-1500Hz and the DC tweeter everything above so operates as a 3way.
The latter has much cleaner mids but loses a bit in perceived bass.
Old 19th July 2018
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Inhad the tannoy reveal active and the reveal passive and a passive pair of system 600.
The reveals sound flat and two dimensional the system 600 sound boxy and midrangy.
When i upgraded to a pair of spendor bc1 and later to a pair of geithain rl 940 i kept the system 600 as a contrast to listen how it sounds on bad speaker.
Old 19th July 2018
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WE ARAE GONNA NEED THE "BLACK SPEAKER IN THE WOOD BOX"!!!!!

all seriousness.. please go easy on the marketing
Old 11th November 2018
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As an owner of Tannoy Precision 6.1 and some Tannoy 8 inch DC drivers, IMO Tannoy excels at soundstage depth and space.

My suggestion is
1: Shorting ring in the pole piece. This reduces 3rd distortion level, and Tannoy 6.1 has a bit audible distortion when playing the intro of Yael Naim's "Toxic" loudly.
2: Alnico? Don't think this will happen but it's a unique selling point!
Old 12th November 2018
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The 215s have two settings on their crossover which Tannoy called 'LF window' for some reason. This can be either in or out.
In one of those settings it runs as a 2way ie the extra woofer runs in parallel to the DC cone. In the other setting the extra woofer gets all frequencies below 250Hz (I think), the DC cone 250-1500Hz and the DC tweeter everything above so operates as a 3way.
The latter has much cleaner mids but loses a bit in perceived bass.
Thanks for this. Can you tell me which is which?
Old 12th November 2018
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Reboot DMT12 monitors. Those were awesome. Keep them passive. LOL.
I agree, DMT 12's are great.
Old 13th November 2018
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Thanks for this. Can you tell me which is which?
Nope, sorry.

You could measure the resistance.
One setting should show around 6Ω, the other 3.
The lower one would be the setting in which woofer and DC run in parallel.

Then again you should be able to hear it really.
Old 21st July 2019
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Love my FSMs!
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