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Yamaha HS5 vs. HS7 vs. HS8 the most overall balanced one? Studio Monitors
Old 12th February 2017
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Yamaha HS5 vs. HS7 vs. HS8 the most overall balanced one?

Hi,

Quite often in the single manufacturer's monitors lineup people find a specific model that is the most balanced one and not necessary the top one. Like many people prefer JBL LSR305 over LSR308, or Adam A7x in the AX series. Quite often the top one is still the overall best one. My question is what is the most overall balanced Yamaha's current lineup monitor in terms of resolution, coloration, imaging, frequency range, etc. I guess it is actually more related to two of them HS7 vs. HS8. Or they are all pretty much even and the actual difference is just frequency range?
Old 14th February 2017
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Same^ I've heard people love the hs5 with a sub and people love the hs8 alone.
Old 14th February 2017
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Same^ I've heard people love the hs5 with a sub and people love the hs8 alone.
I have the HS5s with an the HS8S sub and yes, I love the combo.
Old 14th February 2017
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Ah, interesting, I did not think about such option, like HS5+HS8S vs. HS8.
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The HS8 is probably the best overall balance in a medium/larger room. If you are in a smallish room, the HS7 will most likely hold up better, considering the rear porting. They have similar mid range character, with the edge going to the HS7 for vocal translation due to the smaller woofer.

A producer friend of mine uses the HS7, and I like their balance a lot when set up right. It was easy to work on them in his space coming from my own, using Focal Solo's.

Prior to the Solo6's, I used to own the Yamaha HS80M's in a large room, and got very good translation from them.

I wouldn't say the HS5 have an ideal voicing/balance for all-around work. I used them as a second reference for vocals and mid range, but stopped eventually, and gave them away after working on the Solo's for awhile. The HS5's usefulness kind of starts and stops there IMO, but I never used them in a sub/satellite setup, as I'm not a proponent of subwoofers.
Old 15th February 2017
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I find the HS7's to have very good balance. They do of course lack the ability to reproduce the very lowest frequencies, and as such are not well suited for mastering, but OK for mixing, except one has to be cognizant of the small dip around 7KHz. But certainly for the price, an excellent monitor speaker, IMHO. Good luck.
PS I should add, they do have a lot of "bass", my comment about the "lowest frequencies" means those below what is typical for most music frequencies, but stuff one needs to hear accurately for mastering purposes.

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Old 15th February 2017
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It depends on how you will use them. If you use them as nearfield monitors, the room size is not nearly as important as a factor. This is because you are relying on the direct, and not reflected sound for the most part. In addition, it you are using them as nearfield monitors, the power is not so important.

In my home studio I have a pair of HS5's and an HS8. Regardless of the rooms size, having the sub with the HS5's is a good idea so that you can hear the lower freqencies.

However, it you are not going to use them as nearfield monitors, it probably would be better to go with the larger versions.

I am quite happy with the sound in my setup and can recommend the 5's highly in that context.

Tom
Old 17th February 2017
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I was doing some session work for a pal last night. at the studio i met a gentlemen who ironically owns a studio down the street from my house and has a bunch of grammy nominations. We started talking gear and eventually got to speakers, he was mentioning to me that mixing on HS5s should be a lot like his NS10s in that they're not strong in the low end either.

i'm looking forward to wiring the hs10w up no my HS5s this week and see how it does.

attached the graph for the last generation of HS speakers to the NS.
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Old 17th February 2017
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I agree with edva, HS7. Depending on the room the subwoofer can be quite problematic, so I'd stick with a 2.0 system.
Old 21st September 2017
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I tried both the hs5 and hs7 and noticed that hs7 is more balanced. The treble on the hs5 was way too high. So I would go for hs7 since they offer more bass, more watts and better balance. Now I did want to mention the highly rated jbl lsr305. I actually bought these strictly on the great reviews but for my application they did not meet my expectations. First the build quality is inferior to the yamahas. More importantly the sound quality was too fabricated and unnatural. My application was vocals plus instrumental. The yamahas sounded amazing and reproduced everything with great clarity. Love it. I ended up selling both the lsr305 and hs5 and settled on the hs7. Hope this helps.
Old 21st September 2017
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I tried my friend's HS50m which are the predecessor to HS5 as folks know but so little energy beneath 250Hz. Great for mixing vocals though. I sold my Rokit 5's and got the HS7's and very happy with them. On speaker stands with Sonarworks room correction I'm very happy indeed.
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The HS8 is probably the best overall balance in a medium/larger room. If you are in a smallish room, the HS7 will most likely hold up better, considering the rear porting. They have similar mid range character, with the edge going to the HS7 for vocal translation due to the smaller woofer.

A producer friend of mine uses the HS7, and I like their balance a lot when set up right. It was easy to work on them in his space coming from my own, using Focal Solo's.

Prior to the Solo6's, I used to own the Yamaha HS80M's in a large room, and got very good translation from them.

I wouldn't say the HS5 have an ideal voicing/balance for all-around work. I used them as a second reference for vocals and mid range, but stopped eventually, and gave them away after working on the Solo's for awhile. The HS5's usefulness kind of starts and stops there IMO, but I never used them in a sub/satellite setup, as I'm not a proponent of subwoofers.
I have 5x2.5 room (12,5m²) with some DIY acoustic panels and bass traps. I want upgrade my krk6 , should i get HS7 or HS8? I produce edm.
Thanks
Old 3rd March 2018
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i use the HS5's for a second set of speakers with my Opals. For how I'm using them, bottom isn't an issue.
They're pretty good for lo fi'ing and focusing on the middle. The Opals are slightly recessed in the middle, so...
If it's a main set of monitors you need the 7's or 8's make more sense - if you want a glorified Auratone, or ****ty NS10,
go for the 5's.
Old 4th March 2018
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I find the HS7's to have very good balance. They do of course lack the ability to reproduce the very lowest frequencies, and as such are not well suited for mastering, but OK for mixing, except one has to be cognizant of the small dip around 7KHz. But certainly for the price, an excellent monitor speaker, IMHO. Good luck.
PS I should add, they do have a lot of "bass", my comment about the "lowest frequencies" means those below what is typical for most music frequencies, but stuff one needs to hear accurately for mastering purposes.
There is something better for mixing/mastering than HS8 in this price range? (500€)
Waiting for some suggestions
Old 4th March 2018
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There is something better for mixing/mastering than HS8 in this price range? (500€)
Waiting for some suggestions
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I used to own the HS80M and know them well. Looking for a new pair of monitors and trying to decide whether to go with HS series (7 or 8) or Focal Solo. How would you describe their differences? Strengths? Thanks

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The HS8 is probably the best overall balance in a medium/larger room. If you are in a smallish room, the HS7 will most likely hold up better, considering the rear porting. They have similar mid range character, with the edge going to the HS7 for vocal translation due to the smaller woofer.

A producer friend of mine uses the HS7, and I like their balance a lot when set up right. It was easy to work on them in his space coming from my own, using Focal Solo's.

Prior to the Solo6's, I used to own the Yamaha HS80M's in a large room, and got very good translation from them.

I wouldn't say the HS5 have an ideal voicing/balance for all-around work. I used them as a second reference for vocals and mid range, but stopped eventually, and gave them away after working on the Solo's for awhile. The HS5's usefulness kind of starts and stops there IMO, but I never used them in a sub/satellite setup, as I'm not a proponent of subwoofers.
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I have 5x2.5 room (12,5m²) with some DIY acoustic panels and bass traps. I want upgrade my krk6 , should i get HS7 or HS8? I produce edm.
Thanks
I would the say the main concern is that your room's width is pretty narrow. My instincts would say HS7 is the better choice here, and then add the sub if you still feel the need for more low end. I think the HS8 would create LF issues in a room your size.
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I used to own the HS80M and know them well. Looking for a new pair of monitors and trying to decide whether to go with HS series (7 or 8) or Focal Solo. How would you describe their differences? Strengths? Thanks
Focal wins here in terms of mid range translations, high frequency translation, and low frequency accuracy. HS8 may have the edge in LF extension by a hair, but not enough to really effect mix translation, and the Focals make up for it in LF impact and speed.

Don't get me wrong. Yamaha makes some of the best monitors in their price bracket, but switching to Focals from Yamahas was one of the best decisions I made before moving to Barefoots, and is what allowed me to transition to making money off mixing, rather than it just being a hobby I did for friends.

If you are in a treated room that can already handle the HS80's well, then I would imagine the Focals will slide right into place with ease. The HS80's aren't terribly different from the new HS lineup tb., They are better, but the improvements are subtle, whereas a jump to the Focals will be much more of a revelation, I can assure you.
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I would the say the main concern is that your room's width is pretty narrow. My instincts would say HS7 is the better choice here, and then add the sub if you still feel the need for more low end. I think the HS8 would create LF issues in a room your size.
Ok, im gonna try HS7 first!

And what about adam a7x or eve audio sc207? I think they would be a good upgrade... but 1000€...
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I would the say the main concern is that your room's width is pretty narrow. My instincts would say HS7 is the better choice here, and then add the sub if you still feel the need for more low end. I think the HS8 would create LF issues in a room your size.
How about my room which is 16' wide by 18' long with 9'ceilings?

I have LSR305 MKII"s right now, and they are about 40" apart, and about 40" from each ear.


HS7's or HS8's?
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Focal wins here in terms of mid range translations, high frequency translation, and low frequency accuracy. HS8 may have the edge in LF extension by a hair, but not enough to really effect mix translation, and the Focals make up for it in LF impact and speed.

Don't get me wrong. Yamaha makes some of the best monitors in their price bracket, but switching to Focals from Yamahas was one of the best decisions I made before moving to Barefoots, and is what allowed me to transition to making money off mixing, rather than it just being a hobby I did for friends.

If you are in a treated room that can already handle the HS80's well, then I would imagine the Focals will slide right into place with ease. The HS80's aren't terribly different from the new HS lineup tb., They are better, but the improvements are subtle, whereas a jump to the Focals will be much more of a revelation, I can assure you.

How can the Solo's or the Barefoot's be that much better when they don't cost that much more than the HS8's?
Old 5th March 2018
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I have HS80M’s and eventually picked up an HS10 sub. Honestly most people could do without the sub. Does it make a difference? Sure, a little. Does it make enough of a difference? Questionable.
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How about my room which is 16' wide by 18' long with 9'ceilings?

I have LSR305 MKII"s right now, and they are about 40" apart, and about 40" from each ear.


HS7's or HS8's?
Best to just try them for yourself. See what fits your tastes. If I'm using a two-way speaker I tend to prefer the mid-range performance of a 7-inch woofer over an 8-inch.

Those dimensions should work with HS8, but it all depends on room treatment etc. They're both fine.
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Ok, im gonna try HS7 first!

And what about adam a7x or eve audio sc207? I think they would be a good upgrade... but 1000€...
Not enough experience to give an opinion on either. I will say that if you're going the AMT/Ribbon tweeter route, look into HEDD Type 07's instead. Those are exceptional for the price, and created by the original designer of Adam, Klaus Heinz.
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Best to just try them for yourself. See what fits your tastes. If I'm using a two-way speaker I tend to prefer the mid-range performance of a 7-inch woofer over an 8-inch.

Those dimensions should work with HS8, but it all depends on room treatment etc. They're both fine.

I have no room treatment, but I've learned the room pretty well, and as I said, I don't have the monitors that from from me.

I say the above because I'm assuming that the HS8's would need to be further than 40" from me.
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How can the Solo's or the Barefoot's be that much better when they don't cost that much more than the HS8's?
Please show me where I can buy Barefoots for the price of HS8’s

Same for the Focal Solo’s

Not sure where you’re getting your pricing from
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Hi PN!


My question was meant to be a rhetorical joke, as EVERYONE knows that HS8's don't cost ANYWHERE near what the Focal's and Barefoot's sell for


In my crazy mind, I thought it was just as funny as Jonnboy saying the Focal's and Barefoot's sounded better than the HS8's, but obviously my joke didn't work.


OUCH, TOUGH FORUM


Regardless, as they cost a TREMENDOUS amount more than the HS8's, they damn BETTER sound a LOT BETTER!!


Please note that I'm not making fun of you Jonnboy


I can only dream of the Solo's and Barefoot's at this time, but I will own them one day, as I will be a Professional in the music world in one way or another, and I will hopefully make money as you do by doing something I dearly love



Jerry
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Not enough experience to give an opinion on either. I will say that if you're going the AMT/Ribbon tweeter route, look into HEDD Type 07's instead. Those are exceptional for the price, and created by the original designer of Adam, Klaus Heinz.
Hedd much better than Adam's or Eve for you?

I need a detailed/flat sound for mixing edm.

Im looking for the best choice until 1000€

For a 500€pair i think HS7/8 is my choice.

By the fact that my room is 5x2,5x2,2(height) should i get front ported like Adams or hedd? I think eve and Yamaha is rear.. Im afraid because they are close to the wall but like i said i have DIY acoustic pannels and bass traps.
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Hi PN!

OUCH, TOUGH FORUM

Jerry
Haha! Sorry I didn’t pick up on your sarcasm!

To the OP,
I have the HS8’s with the sub in a treated control room and they are pretty dialed.

I would say they are definitely the best value out there (I’ve tried a lot) and you’d have to spend about double to get something noticeably better.

I will be getting barefoots when I can afford.
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Haha! Sorry I didn’t pick up on your sarcasm!

To the OP,
I have the HS8’s with the sub in a treated control room and they are pretty dialed.

I would say they are definitely the best value out there (I’ve tried a lot) and you’d have to spend about double to get something noticeably better.

I will be getting barefoots when I can afford.
Hi PN


Glad you didn't take offense to my attempt at humor


For my room and listening distance, which do you recommend, the HS7's or HS8's?


The main reason I've gone with 5" nearfields in the past is because I'm afraid the further I put any monitor away from my listening position, the more the room will start to affect what I'm hearing.


That being said...................................................


I've always heard one has to learn the room as well as the monitor, so perhaps if I do go with larger monitors that are further away than what I'm used to, I'll just have to relearn the room.


Also, the sound just seems so damn clear when listening from 40", not to mention that I don't have to turn the volume up that much.


Thanks!
Jerry
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