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Simple vs complex Effects Pedals, Units & Accessories
Old 10th March 2014
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Simple vs complex

complex sound simple chords
complex chords full range sound

Or not?
Old 11th March 2014
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Context? Context?
Context? Context?

Or context?
Old 11th March 2014
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Analysis paralysis, maybe?
Old 11th March 2014
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You can play very simple chords and individual notes with great precision and timing and give a composition much greater impact than playing something so
complex and obscure that you lose the listener.
Old 11th March 2014
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Let your ears be the guide?
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If it sounds good it is.
Old 11th March 2014
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Context? Context?
Context? Context?

Or context?
Thnx MusicJesus. Life is not about balance. Neither is music.
Old 11th March 2014
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Let me re-write your question for context: "More salt? More pepper? Less salt, more vinegar? Or more onions, less garlic?" Without context, there is no usable answer for your question. The deep and meaningfull end of music, art, passion, food, love (the list goes on) is not about complex/simple or fast/slow or loud/silent or (the list goes on). These are secondary values which come after the important things are worked out.
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The deep and meaningfull end of music, art, passion, food, love (the list goes on) is not about complex/simple or fast/slow or loud/silent or (the list goes on). These are secondary values which come after the important things are worked out.
Yes, my question was from the "secondary values" field.
You and MusicJesus are probably from the "deep and meaningfull" field.

A long time, classical guitars (still maybe) were considered as the academic standard, because of their (I will weigh my words ) relative plain, non-rich sound (as opposed to steel-string westerns), which invites for complex music.

That's all. Back to love and food.

(Yes, there is a lot of deep love in steel-strings)
Old 11th March 2014
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If I'm from the "deep" camp or just plain camp doesn't figure much in the equation as long as you don't pose a question that can be met by an answer. It's like an equation that has a few variables missing. So if you want to go somewhere, supply the missing variables. In case you think you supplied enough variables your question might be over my head, sorry.
....and btw I started in the early 80s with a Fostex x-15 that's still fully operational. Great little machines.
Old 11th March 2014
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a Fostex x-15 that's still fully operational.
I admire your dedication!

And yes, I left some variables on purpose. To keep it open.
I like the abstractions of it.

What is 'complexity'?
Does it have a life of it's own?
What does it like and who likes it?

I like the interactive complexities of merging natural sounds as in ECM productions, which music is not complex perse.
And I like Bach for complex music, while the sound eventually could be a sine tone (or even no tone, just the score)
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This doesn't belong here, Philosophical discussions or rather discussions of philosophy might be better served in "Gear free zone - shoot the breeze!" LOL just saying, I'm pretty sure you can out think me so I'll bow out now with whatever grace is allowed.
Old 12th March 2014
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This doesn't belong here, Philosophical discussions or rather discussions of philosophy might be better served in "Gear free zone - shoot the breeze!" LOL just saying, I'm pretty sure you can out think me so I'll bow out now with whatever grace is allowed.
Hey Allphourus, it's serious about gear decisions!
Please, I wanna be here!
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complex sound simple chords
complex chords full range sound

Or not?
I'm glad you asked... you've come to the right place.

No.

The answer is, "no".
Old 12th March 2014
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No.

The answer is, "no".
No no no no no no no
Oh mama mia mama mia
Mama mia let me go

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I'm glad you asked... you've come to the right place.

No.

The answer is, "no".
Haha is this like when someone asks you if you want ketchup or mustard and you say "yes?"
Old 12th March 2014
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Is that you, smoothvibe?
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Hey Allphourus, it's serious about gear decisions!
Please, I wanna be here!
Carry On Than. Don't let me stop you, but please don't drag me any further away from shore I'm already in way over my head.
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The 21st joke...

OP walks into a clinic and asks for a metaphysical. The doc asks, "You mean you want a physical?" OP says, "No, I just want to talk about it."


It's all in jest, Theo
Old 12th March 2014
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22

A girl met a boy in a bar.
"I love the simple things", the boy said.
"Me too, that makes two of us" the girl replied."
"No, two of us is four", the boy said.
"You are complex", the girl said.
"I love the simple things", the boy said.
. . . . .

Etc.
Old 12th March 2014
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In very simple terms, the parts you create should support the melody.

With vocals, the instruments are there to support the vocals, not compete with them.

Every part needs to be structured with all the other parts in mind.

This simple task can be unbelievably complex and detailed.
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This doesn't belong here
You are absolutely right.
You are a wise man.
I am a slow student.

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or even no tone, just the score
That was the moment you pushed me to 'Gear Free Zone'.


(Gear Free Gearslutz, hm makes sense)
Old 12th March 2014
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Not to worry.

Cabin Fever tends to make the mind wander.
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"Complex chord" is highly subjective, I mean, a cultural thing. I find Bach rather predictable.

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complex sound simple chords
complex chords full range sound

Or not?
is anyone else playing with you?
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Let your ears be the guide?
.....or perhaps your skill level.

Play within yourself.

Simple can be very powerful.
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