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cabinet recording help please! Condenser Microphones
Old 6th September 2007
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cabinet recording help please!

Hey guys, I apologize is if this in the wrong section. long time lurker here, and I have a moderate setup and looking for a specific guitar sound, was wondering if you can help me out.

I am looking for a guitar tone like A Perfect Circle. My main guitar setup..

PRS CE 24
Mesa Dual Rectifier
Mesa 2x12

Shure SM57 on the speaker edge going to a Vintech X73 into an Apogee AD digitally into Pro Tools.

The room is treated, the amp sounds perfect in the room, just how I'd want it to sound. I tried the method of getting on my hands and knees and finding the sound in the speaker where it sounds full using the buzz of the guitar cable. That worked pretty well - it sounds pretty full but it still sounds "boxy"? If i could get rid of that boxiness I think it would be usable.

I am wondering if i should put a large diaphragm condenser (neumann) on it, is it safe to put it up to the speaker like that? Or should I put it a few inches out?

Thanks for any assistance.
Old 6th September 2007
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Have you tried placing another mic about three feet from the speaker, send that mic to a different pre? How big is the room?

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Old 6th September 2007
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Thanks for the advice. Should the 2nd mic be condenser or dynamic?

Room is about 8'x12'
Old 6th September 2007
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Originally Posted by thesoundofsatan View Post
Thanks for the advice. Should the 2nd mic be condenser or dynamic?

Room is about 8'x12'
I use a Studio Projects C-1. It's an omni condenser. If you have a large diaphram condenser with a cardioid pickup pattern I would try that first. My C-1 picks up more room than I like. Also, your room is a bit small and will create standing waves that an omni with hear.

So, try a large diaphram/cartioid.
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Thanks for the tip!

I used a Neumann TLM103 a few inches back from the speaker and blended them together, sounds pretty nice now.

Thanks again
Old 7th September 2007
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try moving the 57 in on the cone a little bit. if you say you're not happy with the recorded sound, the first step should always be move the mic, not add another one. fix what ya got first, then experiment.
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try moving the 57 in on the cone a little bit. if you say you're not happy with the recorded sound, the first step should always be move the mic, not add another one. fix what ya got first, then experiment.

I agree, if you can't get things sounding good with a 57 alone then there's other problems going on.
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