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Old 1 week ago
  #1
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Fake or real

Hi,

I hired a guitarist to record guitars for a song from me.
One of his tracks says it’s a 12 string:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s55y3y7663...uit_1.wav?dl=0
Starts around 0:33

To my ears it sounds like a plug-in, not a real instrument ringing and played by a guitarist. What do you guys think?
Old 1 week ago
  #2
That is certainly processed to hell and back. Very synthetic. I think it has pitch-shifted components to the processing.

Is it a 12-string behind all that pitch processing and digital-chorus-like effects? Could be, it would be really hard to tell ... but my guess is that it's a 6-string processed to be a synthetic-sounding pitch-processed digital-chorus-ish poor imitation. That's the most likely thing here.
Old 1 week ago
  #3
Gear Nut
 
🎧 5 years
Looks and sounds like a VSTi. Every strum is perfectly on the beat, there's no finger or fret noise, no room ambience, and the slurs or whatever that is in bar 71 are very artificial.
Old 1 week ago
  #4
kvj
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Virtual 12 string for sure.
Old 1 week ago
  #5
Dear god that sounds like it was just tabbed out in Guitar Pro
Old 1 week ago
  #6
Gear Head
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saschko ➡️
Hi,

I hired a guitarist to record guitars for a song from me.
One of his tracks says it’s a 12 string:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s55y3y7663...uit_1.wav?dl=0
Starts around 0:33

To my ears it sounds like a plug-in, not a real instrument ringing and played by a guitarist. What do you guys think?
Sounds fake as sh1t. Very mechanical, flat and lifeless to put it mildly.
Have him play it over Zoom and see what happens.
Or else claim money back.
Old 1 week ago
  #7
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2 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
that's not a guitar. sounds like either a keyboard patch or a virtual instrument patch.
I use a Taylor 12, Rick 12, or Strat 12 on my projects...they're real.
Old 1 week ago
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🎧 10 years
Would be hard to play a 12 string like that, sounds very fake
It’s kind of cool in its fake ness though
Old 5 days ago
  #9
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Fake 12 string guitar

Fake. Everything that makes a real performance is missing ie. the time it takes to get from one chord to another, the inversions, the variation in pick tone, etc. I hope you get your money back.
Old 4 days ago
  #10
Gear Nut
Quote:
Originally Posted by saschko ➡️
Hi,

I hired a guitarist to record guitars for a song from me.
One of his tracks says it’s a 12 string:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s55y3y7663...uit_1.wav?dl=0
Starts around 0:33

To my ears it sounds like a plug-in, not a real instrument ringing and played by a guitarist. What do you guys think?
How much did you pay him?
Old 3 days ago | Show parent
  #11
Gear Head
 
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1 Review written
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€400
Old 3 days ago
  #12
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🎧 10 years
Yeah, that's clearly not a real guitar. I'm curious - you said you asked him to record 'some guitars'? Does that mean he sent you other guitar parts too? If so, were they real?
Is it a case of him sending you some genuine, usable guitar parts but then one '12-string' part that he has used a VST for?

Or was your 400 euros literally just for that '12 string' part alone?

I mean, even if he had used a real, beautiful sounding 12 string, playing that simple strumming part for 400 euros seems like very good money to me!
Old 3 days ago | Show parent
  #13
Gear Nut
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Originally Posted by saschko ➡️
€400
Do the other guitar parts he recorded sound similarly fake?
Old 3 days ago
  #14
Lives for gear
Does sound like a virtual guitar instrument to me - if you like the sound - get your $400 back and buy a guitar VSTi with (half the?) cash - you'll get a similar result.
It has a certain charm to it - almost Strangers-like harpsichord tone without the human touch!
Old 3 days ago
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58 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by saschko ➡️
Hi,

I hired a guitarist to record guitars for a song from me.
One of his tracks says it’s a 12 string:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s55y3y7663...uit_1.wav?dl=0
Starts around 0:33

To my ears it sounds like a plug-in, not a real instrument ringing and played by a guitarist. What do you guys think?
BTW, Dropbox is a really, really obnoxious way to share tunes on here. Why don't you dimply use the site's "upload" function?
Old 3 days ago
  #16
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$400?!?!? I’m in the wrong damn business!!!!

(No insult to the OP, not their fault at all)

I couldn’t imagine charging someone $5 for that, never mind $400!

I’m wondering if the guy who supplied the “12-string” would be willing to detail his signal chain and guitar he used. Sounds more like a harpsichord than a guitar!

I wonder if this is the first time this guy tried pawning that off as legit or if he’s been at it for a while and no one called him out?
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by ColdFrixion ➡️
Do the other guitar parts he recorded sound similarly fake?
The electric guitars are real
Old 1 day ago
  #18
Gear Head
 
🎧 5 years
Sounds like Roland JV1080 12 string guitar patch.
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Originally Posted by Kutay ➡️
Sounds like Roland JV1080 12 string guitar patch.
Definitely!
https://youtu.be/7QNpjMS2B7E?t=921


saschko, I speak as a guitarist, that track has nothing of a real recorded acoustic guitar. It's lifeless and stationary, no variations, no accents, no attack of the pick on the strings. More sort of a MIDI file played through a VSTi, or a master keyboard attached to a synth (the JV-1080 for example) with a guitar preset loaded.
This how it sounds a real acoustic guitar

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3 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by saschko ➡️
€400
A little pricey for what he did, IMHO...unless he's something of a name brand who could add legitimacy to your project. Did you get a refund? He owes you €400.
Old 15 hours ago | Show parent
  #21
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1 Review written
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by kennybro ➡️
A little pricey for what he did, IMHO...unless he's something of a name brand who could add legitimacy to your project. Did you get a refund? He owes you €400.
It´s a name brand thing that can help with subsidies. So my money can come back from another side and be a good investment in the end. We will see.
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