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Brand new Gibson Les Paul standard coming with swirl marks?
Old 16th May 2020
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Brand new Gibson Les Paul standard coming with swirl marks?

I was curious if this is normal, As I'm not sure if Nitrocellulose lacquer finishes are literally this fragile on Gibsons, Even new. This Guitar was actually manufactured this month and sent to me via SweetWater. I know it wasn't a floor model, because they were on back order when I put in the request for mine. It is the 2020 Slash Les Paul standard in the Vermilion Burst. It came in its original Gibson box and then in a secondary SweetWater box surrounding it. Just curious if this is how they come outta the factory or If I should bother sending it back. It will be used as a live guitar anyway and sounds great... but did I get screwed with somehow on the finish? And If I was sent another one, would this happen rather quickly anyway? You can only see the marks well in harsh lighting. Polishing with an ultra fine polish by hand with a microfiber cloth seemed to do absolutely nothing. I will include photos below about what I'm talking about, as well as a photo in low lighting. If this is the norm, it seems a little unacceptable for a 3k dollar guitar. Thanks for any input!
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Old 16th May 2020
  #2
Doesn't look right. Like a scratchy cloth was used to clean it.
Old 16th May 2020
  #3
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Those pictures show it clearly, I would send those to Sweetwater.
Old 16th May 2020
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It’s a little rough but it’s a cool lookin guitar! I bet it sounds great. Keep it.
Old 16th May 2020
  #5
That's unacceptable to me. Send it back. Not even a borderline case.
Old 18th May 2020
  #6
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Ive had little to zero results with a light compound/swirl remover. Threads swear by that, But Its done nothing with a microfiber buffing pad. The Nitro seems like a very soft finish though, even a light pick up against it leaves small hairline markings.
Old 18th May 2020
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Hi.

I wouldn't let a guitar leave my workshop looking like that, someone has dropped the ball...

Impossible to be sure without physically examining the instrument, but it looks to my eyes like the scratches are not in the top coat of lacquer. If polishing with a fine cloth is having no effect, that would make sense.

I don't know Gibson's finishing procedure, but typically one 'cuts back' (ie sands) the lacquer between coats, with perhaps 600 grit wet and dry paper. A series of finer grades (I use 2000 grit prior to shooting the final coat) of paper would be use before the final coats.
Those photos look like someone may have missed a grade, leaving behind coarse scratches the subsequent grades would be unable to remove.

Whatever the cause, QC should have spotted it. Nitro is a finicky lacquer to shoot, but that's just bad workmanship.

KoS.
Old 19th May 2020
  #8
Typical Curleigh era lack of quality control and general not giving a sh!t about anything but money.

Send it back, get a refund, buy a used one.
Old 20th May 2020
  #9
That will buff out. It should have been done before it left Nashville.
Old 25th May 2020
  #10
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That will buff out. It should have been done before it left Nashville.
Hopefully. What happens if the swirl marks aren't in the top coat but are in one of the lower, colored coats and got painted over by the clear top coats?
Old 26th May 2020
  #11
Then it qualifies as a truck guitar to be beaten up without regrets.
Old 27th May 2020
  #12
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Originally Posted by kingofspain View Post
I wouldn't let a guitar leave my workshop looking like that, someone has dropped the ball...
I'm a bit surprised that Sweetwater sent it out. This is something you would expect from Guitar Center.
Old 28th May 2020
  #13
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I'm a bit surprised that Sweetwater sent it out. This is something you would expect from Guitar Center.
I'd like to be, but I'm not.
Old 28th May 2020
  #14
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So you took of its clothes and don't like what you see (always my greatest fear)...but how does it feel? Both of my LP's are keepers and if I received them in that condition I might be upset until i played it. If you have to ask on here, then its probably not the one. Send it back.
Old 28th May 2020
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If you liked it enough to keep it you could still complain and perhaps get some money back or other compensation.
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