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CJ1973 1st December 2015 06:07 AM

Thanks folks! This was mentioned before by someone, but in your opinion, is there a Holy Grail for Tremolo? Also, how about amps that have built in tremolo them? Same circuitry?

kafka 1st December 2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ1973 (Post 11515101)
Thanks folks! This was mentioned before by someone, but in your opinion, is there a Holy Grail for Tremolo? Also, how about amps that have built in tremolo them? Same circuitry?

No, not really. It's kind of a cornball effect. Really dated sounding. Most people will never turn it on.

noah330 1st December 2015 03:53 PM

Only one I use is the Fuchs. It's the old brown style tremolo.

I had a Supa Trem and it was cool if you're into a more traditional BF sound.

Mario-C. 1st December 2015 04:10 PM

EHX Super Pulsar.

Joe Porto 1st December 2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kafka (Post 11515355)
No, not really. It's kind of a cornball effect. Really dated sounding. Most people will never turn it on.

I agree as far as the typical hard tremolo sound, which just about any pedal can do, but with an amp that uses bias modulated tremolo (and to a lesser degree, opto), where the tremolo fx is integrated within the amp's gain structure, you can use slight tremolo to give almost a chorus type of effect to your sound without it actually sounding like a tremolo. I have yet to find a pedal that can match the subtleties of a good tube based amp tremolo.

Depending where you put the fx in your chain is another factor. If you put it after distortion, you get a hard tremolo, but putting into an overdrive pedal or overdriven amp gives a less pronounced sound due to the compression of the later gain stages, and also has a more characteristic tone, as the overdrive level and harmonics of the amp or dirt pedals are modulated, not the static overdrive sound.

RicTone 1st December 2015 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kafka (Post 11515355)
No, not really. It's kind of a cornball effect. Really dated sounding. Most people will never turn it on.

Certainly a valid comment but hey, our band resembles that remark! :) We do two songs in which I use Tremolo - an old Yardbirds song "Heart Full Of Soul" and I use a bit on "Wicked Game."

Jeff Scott 2nd December 2015 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Porto (Post 11516013)
...you can use slight tremolo to give almost a chorus type of effect to your sound without it actually sounding like a tremolo.

I do that with my Flint (the girls really get into that!).

Slowest speed and just barely perceptible intensity; I use this setting for bass a lot.

Joe Porto 2nd December 2015 01:44 AM

Another cool way to use a tremolo pedal is in front of an envelope filter, with just enough tremolo intensity to modulate the envelope filter.

Johnny Favorite 2nd December 2015 06:17 AM

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Another cool way to use a tremolo pedal is in front of an envelope filter, with just enough tremolo intensity to modulate the envelope filter.
Never thought of that. Great tip, thanks.

motone 2nd December 2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by aramism (Post 11511669)
what's the "holy grail" tremolo? in other words even stuff from 30 years ago. the "dyna comp" or "phase 90" or "big muff" of tremolo?

.... well - the dynacomp or phase 90 were not the holy grail in terms of quality or flexibility (these would have been the mutron bi-phase and the LA2a compressor ala Lowell George), they were affordable, readily available and did the job ... this would be the Demeter tremulator when it comes to stompbox tremolos ....
the holy grail in terms of classic sound and flexibility of standalone, non-amp tremolos are the Matchless TV1, and the Lovetone Wobulator .... both do vibrato as well ... but no tap tempo / pattern / midi sync stuff etc, though the Wobulator can be synced via gate/cv

here's a very good review/description of the TV-1:
http://www.harmonycentral.com/review...vibrato/397445

kafka 2nd December 2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Porto (Post 11516979)
Another cool way to use a tremolo pedal is in front of an envelope filter, with just enough tremolo intensity to modulate the envelope filter.

That sounds weird. I'm going to have to try it.

dougb415 3rd December 2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snorktop (Post 11512822)
It's called a Leslie rotating speaker and they still make them, not sure why more guitarists don't use them, they spank the pedals like an evil merchant. The holy grail pedal is the '60s Shin-ei Uni-Vibe.

That is so NOT tremolo. Leslie speakers emulate/mimic the Doppler effect thru the use of a rotating speaker.

dougb415 3rd December 2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kafka (Post 11515355)
No, not really. It's kind of a cornball effect. Really dated sounding. Most people will never turn it on.

My Goodsell Model 1958 combo amp has one of the best trems EVER. This cornball will be using it on our next tune, hope to get it recorded fairly soon.

dilznik 3rd December 2015 11:19 PM

I'm a big fan of the JHS Honeycomb. Analog with two different speed settings that you can set up. That way you can have Bang Bang and Rumble in the same set without having to reach down and turn the knob.

For amp based, the one I like the most is the one in the Princeton Reverb.

kafka 3rd December 2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dougb415 (Post 11521440)
My Goodsell Model 1958 combo amp has one of the best trems EVER. This cornball will be using it on our next tune, hope to get it recorded fairly soon.

Ahhh, but would you say that you're more cornball, or more dated? Because some people are both. It's kind of a spectrum disorder.

mcgruff 3rd December 2015 11:56 PM

I could mention the tremolo on Radiohead "Bones" or The Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter" but would that be modern or dated?

Snorktop 4th December 2015 12:05 AM

Using vintagey cornball effect in very modern uncorny style music works well.

And ok Leslie is not tremolo, go ahead and crucify me for even mentioning it.

kafka 4th December 2015 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mcgruff (Post 11521518)
I could mention the tremolo on Radiohead "Bones" or The Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter" but would that be modern or dated?

Bones - modern, because the envelope changes the rate of the tremolo, but cornball, because it's just sort of a gimmick
Gimme Shelter - dated, because that song is older than me, and I'm dated, but not cornball, because it doesn't exactly sound like a tremolo

And I'll see your Bones and Gimme Shelter, and raise you by the greatest tremolo song ever, How Soon is Now, which is still modern 30 years later, and not cornball.

Snorktop 4th December 2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Porto (Post 11516979)
Another cool way to use a tremolo pedal is in front of an envelope filter, with just enough tremolo intensity to modulate the envelope filter.

Wicked. :deth:

Joe Porto 4th December 2015 12:26 AM

If Tremolo effect was worth a "holy grail" pedal, maybe it would be this:

Super Seek Trem — ZVEX Effects

Basically, a 16 step tremolo sequencer, where you can set the level of each step for various rhythmic FX.


kafka 4th December 2015 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Porto (Post 11521594)
If Tremolo effect was worth a "holy grail" pedal, maybe it would be this:

Super Seek Trem — ZVEX Effects

Basically, a 16 step tremolo sequencer, where you can set the level of each step for various rhythmic FX.

I forgot about that pedal. Yes, that's a cool one. I'd be more interested, but I think I'd have a hard time getting it to work with a live band. But still, the musical applications are pretty obvious.

I'd like one with assignable multi outs for each step. I could be the Aphex Twin of guitar players.

dougb415 5th December 2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kafka (Post 11521498)
Ahhh, but would you say that you're more cornball, or more dated? Because some people are both. It's kind of a spectrum disorder.

I'd say that I'm a dated cornball. Not too pitted tho. No raisins either.

code green 5th December 2015 11:06 PM

I quite like the Prescription Electronics Throb, with its ability to switch between two different tremolo speeds. The square wave chop is wicked. I like to use it in conjunction with really pitchy phasers like the Boss for some really cool up-down effects...or with an eBow for liquidy weirdness.

wxyz 6th December 2015 12:42 AM

Guyatone VT-X Vintage Tremolo

Stevil 7th December 2015 05:41 PM

I think the Goatkeeper is at the top of the pile on the high end of things. Pigtronix also makes a huge & versatile Tremvelope.
I have a Gig-FX Chopper then makes a nice Trem sound with some cool frills for about half the price. They also make a Pro-Chop w/ Midi Sync that's priced closer to the Pigtron & Goat.

On the other hand there are some great sounding tremolo's for significantly less. I've had Dunlop TS-1 & Voodoo Labs 2 Knob Trem which both sound great but lack the frills of their exponentially more expensive brethren.

It's all about what's important to you & the sound you're trying to make. If you just want a great sounding no frills Trem there are some great options under $100. if things like MIDI sync, tap tempo, variable patterns, ect, are important to you there are more expensive pedals out there.

Zoobiedood 8th December 2015 05:02 PM

My vote is the Shape Shifter Tremolo, since it does stereo, tap tempo, and you can change the waveform for the 'shape' of the trem.

Nathanael PCB 10th December 2015 03:46 AM

EQD hummingbird for me. Goes from soft to super hard chop but it's the level control that does it for me. I do a few country style trem leads so the volume boost is perfect to poke it's head out.

lame pseudonym 11th December 2015 05:20 AM

I never liked any tremolos incorporated into amplifiers. I did need one for a song, though, and I got an EA Tremolo

EA Tremolo | General Guitar Gadgets

and it was perfectly fine. Very nice, in fact. Admirable, in fact. Sorry it only cost $60.

GearAndGuitars 13th December 2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ1973 (Post 11508940)
Looking for a few options here, Analog. I've heard of Lightfoot Labs Goatkeeper. Tempo options besides Tap if possible....Any other options out there?

Thanks heaps!!

this one:

Chase Bliss Warped Vinyl

pencilextremist 14th December 2015 02:37 AM

mad professor fx mellow yellow tremolo is my personal favourite.

Mad Professor Amplification LTD | Mellow Yellow Tremolo