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Old 12th August 2019
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Originally Posted by Soundman2020 View Post
... which must be why the vast majority of studios place their speakers near to the front wall, or even place them IN the front wall! They do that because they want the stereo imaging messed up. Yup. For sure...
So you don't even understand the difference between placing the speakers IN the front wall, which is a kind of perfect aligned wavefront, versus placing them NEAR the front wall and immediately catch a reflection, because the speaker cone is not aligned with the reflective surface, but in front of it? Have you designed any room at all or is it just fake? Nobody spoke about the case of placing them IN.

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In reality, no: not true. Placing your speakers against the front wall does NOT degrade the stereo image. At least, in a correctly designed and treated studio it does not.
No matter how good the rest of the room is designed, the front wall has its impact. Not hard to understand.

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That is, indeed, how most mics record: in mono, to one single track. You have a theory about how a U47 placed a few inches in front of a singer's mouth is going to produce a stereo image on that track? How about something simpler, such as an SM57 on a snare? In what way will an SM57 on a snare magically produce stereo information in the track that it lays down? Or maybe your magical effect only happens in the low end, so let's assume we are talking about a plain old Beat-52 inside a kick drum: How exactly is the track form that going to have any hidden stereo imaging?

Truth: a mono mic does not capture a stereo image. The combined signals from several such mics also does not produce a stereo image by itself. To get a stereo image, you need a pair of speakers correctly placed in a room with good treatment. Stereo imaging is a function of the speakers and the room, not of some whimsical hidden information in a single mono track.
Ok, you actually know even less than I thought, but ok, never mind!
Why do you think companies sell stereo mics?

https://www.thomann.de/de/neumann_km184mt_stereoset.htm
https://www.thomann.de/de/akg_c414_xls_stereoset.htm

Because there are stereo mic techniques to record

stereo room track of a drum kit
stereo overheads of a drum kit
guitar in stereo
choir in stereo

and many other sources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bct-5YbKGlU

You never noticed the stereo depth of a well recorded drum kit? How do you want to design a room when you even havent heard of the effect of stereo and do not judge the listening situation with this in mind? That is insane.

And even for mono recorded material: when you take a vocal and run it into a good reverb plugin the vocal gets depth and moves to the back, depending on how the plugin is set. This is all abc knowledge and part of mixing, in the most basic form. You balance between dry, early reflections and reverb tail, plus initial delay. That requires good imaging performance.

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