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Is LoopCloud "safe" to use for my music?
Old 9th June 2019
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SamplesLoops Is LoopCloud "safe" to use for my music?

There was a big discussion about using cloud based sample services on another thread in GearSlutz: COMPOSERS: DO NOT USE SPLICE [Public Service Announcement]

Basically they were saying that using these sample packs is similar to sampling someone's song and creating a derivative work. This means that someone else also has ownership of every song you create using these samples. Is this true?

Do I really infringe on someone's copyright and owe them a chunk of my royalties by using LoopCould or other similar services? Seems unfair to me that if I pay my money to use the samples that I also have to give up my royalties to someone else.

I though these samples were royalty-free to use in any production.

Can someone come in and clear up things? Thanks.
Old 10th June 2019
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Originally Posted by Desire Inspires View Post
There was a big discussion about using cloud based sample services on another thread in GearSlutz: COMPOSERS: DO NOT USE SPLICE [Public Service Announcement]

Basically they were saying that using these sample packs is similar to sampling someone's song and creating a derivative work. This means that someone else also has ownership of every song you create using these samples. Is this true?

Do I really infringe on someone's copyright and owe them a chunk of my royalties by using LoopCould or other similar services? Seems unfair to me that if I pay my money to use the samples that I also have to give up my royalties to someone else.

I though these samples were royalty-free to use in any production.

Can someone come in and clear up things? Thanks.
The long and short of it is that anything using a sample is a derivative work of some kind. If the content you're sampling is royalty-free, it's completely legal and the author of the derivative work retains the copyright assuming all other sounds do not require a license. As a real example, my own sound service Pyro Audio (pyroaudio.com) offers royalty free drum samples with the EXPECTATION that others will create original works with them, and thus the sounds are always royalty-free, globally, in perpetuity. We retain zero percent of your works that use those sounds, because we never provide content that has already been copyrighted by someone else.
Old 11th June 2019
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The long and short of it is that anything using a sample is a derivative work of some kind. If the content you're sampling is royalty-free, it's completely legal and the author of the derivative work retains the copyright assuming all other sounds do not require a license. As a real example, my own sound service Pyro Audio (pyroaudio.com) offers royalty free drum samples with the EXPECTATION that others will create original works with them, and thus the sounds are always royalty-free, globally, in perpetuity. We retain zero percent of your works that use those sounds, because we never provide content that has already been copyrighted by someone else.
Good to know. Thanks.
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