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Sennheiser MKH 80 vs. MKH 800
Old 2nd June 2018
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Any Twin users around? Thinking about a pair of these more and more.
I have a pair each of the "regular" MKH800 and the Twins. If you have four recording channels, the Twins are the ideal mikes when you don't know what you'll be walking into. The main downside is that they're mercilessly revealing - NOT what you want to use on e.g. a typical middle school orchestra!
Old 2nd June 2018
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You can actually do ms with omni mid with a single twin
You sure can! Hadn't thought of that yet. I had a stereo (XY 180º?) recording made with a dual output large diaphragm mic which was a couple yards off of a drum kit on hand, so I ran a MS test with it. Seems to come out about the same as leaving it XY 180º (?) when levels are unchanged, but gives a very different sort of narrowing to mono as compared to simply panning the capsules to the center. Interesting trick. Likely very different results with the MKH Twin.

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Old 11th June 2018
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Any Twin users around? Thinking about a pair of these more and more.
The TWIN is basically the normal 800 without the switches and with an XLR-5 output, so would sound the same but with more flexibility.

I have a pair of the normal 800 and like them, but I got mine before the TWIN came out.

The late Mike Skeet had a couple of the TWINs that he used alongside his 80 and found no real difference.
Old 11th June 2018
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Twins are amazing mics, but 800s and Twins do not sound the same. The difference(s) are visible in the frequency response charts.

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/studio-...kh-800-twin-ni

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/studio-...ms-mkh-800-p48
Old 13th June 2018
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do anyone use MKH405 or similar? I bought one some time ago and I really like it, didn't expect so fat sound out of that small mic ;-). Had anyone tried MKH405 together with new pieces? Is it the same technology?
I have a pair of them that I bought in the early '80's. They were my favorite mics until acquiring some mkh406's which I prefer over even the newer mkh40's.

All mkh mics operate on the same basic principle. The design has been refined over the years.
Old 13th June 2018
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Thanks for replying on my post from 15 years ago . I never used 406s, but I have some experience with mkh30, 60, 80. 405 is softer and noisier, but still great on many things. That said the noise performance is on par with modern SDCs and even after using many (classic/expensive) mics 405 just only grew on me.

Some people don't like it much because it is really thick with (super)closemicing, where they don't get enough bite (like with km84 etc). Once you back off though...

MKHx0 series mics are less colored and cleaner for sure, but 405 isn't that far behind and there is something more euphonic to it. Well worth the ridiculously low prices it sells for and 48v>tonader barrel adaptor.
Old 13th June 2018
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Er - I have just looked up the frequency response charts of the two mics and they are the same
Old 13th June 2018
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MKH 405/406 are lovely mics but have more intermod than the classic MKH
Old 14th June 2018
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MKH 405/406 are lovely mics but have more intermod than the classic MKH
And more distortion than the symmetrical capsule series (MKH 20/30/40 series and 8000 series).
Old 20th February 2019
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Er - I have just looked up the frequency response charts of the two mics and they are the same
?

Maybe I misunderstand but I just gave a look and they are not the same. Please compare the cardio.

In black the MKH800 P48
In blue the MKH800 Twin.

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Old 20th February 2019
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My MKH 800 pair have been on order from Sennheiser since October....
No sign of them yet.
Old 20th February 2019
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?

Maybe I misunderstand but I just gave a look and they are not the same. Please compare the cardio.

In black the MKH800 P48
In blue the MKH800 Twin.

Fred
Interesting - the 800 looks better than the twin ???
Old 20th February 2019
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Interesting - the 800 looks better than the twin ???
Better, not sure... different, I'm sure.

The 800 looks as an "extended" 80. If you compare the 800 from the low end until 20k with the 80, they share the same frequency responses with all the figures. Of course the 800 goes until 50k, and it doesn't mean they sound the same.
But the twin is another story.

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Old 4 weeks ago
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do anyone use MKH405 or similar? I bought one some time ago and I really like it, didn't expect so fat sound out of that small mic ;-). Had anyone tried MKH405 together with new pieces? Is it the same technology?
I have a pair of mkh405's as well as the 406 and mkh40's. All are fine sounding mics. The 405's were my favorite acoustic guitar mics until I got the 406's, which I prefer over the mkh 40's.
Old 4 weeks ago
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Rick thanks for replying on my post from 2003 . In some ways I also like 405 more than MKH80 (closest thing to MKH40 I have), it's softer and more airy... but also more noisy (thought still within modern standards). I never tried 406 though.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Rick thanks for replying on my post from 2003 . In some ways I also like 405 more than MKH80 (closest thing to MKH40 I have), it's softer and more airy... but also more noisy (thought still within modern standards). I never tried 406 though.
I'm slow but I get there. Actually, I was researching the difference twixt mkh 80 and 800 when I found this thread.
Old 1 week ago
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I loved reading 16+ yrs of this thread. I love the 800 and the 80.

Why is there not a stereo version?
Old 1 week ago
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Stereo version will cost over $7000 but not as flexible. A good idea, though.
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