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Elroy & The Bread Mobile capture "Hey Guy" on 13 GoPro cameras!
Old 20th December 2012
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Cool Elroy & The Bread Mobile capture "Hey Guy" on 13 GoPro cameras!

We recorded and shot an awesome video completely on Elroy, my dual expanding wall mobile studio!

We used Elroy as the studio space and The Bread Mobile was used as the control room!

I'm taking this seriously awesome concept on the road, baby...

There are a lot of great bands out there!
IMHO, they should be seen and heard (on location) in their hometown at the highest quality level possible.

What say you?



Aura-Sonic Presents: Hey Guy - Focusing - YouTube

I'm all ears, so hit me up if you have any questions or thoughts!
Thanks!
Old 20th December 2012
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Two words...

Seriously. Amazing.


Excellent, excellent sound--so clear and still powerful. Any details you'd care to share?

Lloyd
Old 20th December 2012
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Great!



It could be a repeatable format..

with different acts..

Old 21st December 2012
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That's great Steve!

Have you come across these guys in your travels?
JAM in the VAN

They're a bit more low key than your trucks but still some cool music being played/recorded on the road.

Thanks for sharing.
Old 21st December 2012
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Steve baby,
very cool buddy,
I have something ready to go we really need to talk about~!

Call me......(again)
Old 21st December 2012
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That is incredible!!

What is the clear plastic panel in front of the singer for? Isolation?

Love it!

-Mike
Old 21st December 2012
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I have already told you this, but: wow.....
This is such a fantastic band, I loooooooove this song and I looooove the sound of it.. Really man.. fantastic... It sounds better than their studio album.
Is this song on an album somewhere? I cannot find it on itunes or Spotify.
Old 21st December 2012
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Originally Posted by loranoyd View Post
Seriously. Amazing.


Excellent, excellent sound--so clear and still powerful. Any details you'd care to share?

Lloyd
Thanks!

I was going for a Hi-Fi sounding mix, which is unheard of in this genre of music.

We people tell me there's not enough snap on the snare and bass drum and the vocals are too loud, I say, YES! That's what I was going for.

I mean, the visual is giving you all that "in your face" (instruments) thing.
I wanted the viewer to listen to the vocals without the instruments getting in the way.

You will also notice that this sounds pretty decent on all sorts of systems.
You can hear each and every part clearly without blowing your brains out.

Hey, I'll spill the beans about the production; just come up with the questions and I shall comply!
Old 21st December 2012
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Yes, Jules!!!

It is a repeatable format.

I plan to take this on the road.

I have all sorts of ideas on how I want to capture the next band using the same dual (possibly three) truck concept.

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Great!



It could be a repeatable format..

with different acts..

Old 21st December 2012
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That's awesome!

I never heard of these cats, but great minds (clearly) think alike!


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That's great Steve!

Have you come across these guys in your travels?
JAM in the VAN

They're a bit more low key than your trucks but still some cool music being played/recorded on the road.

Thanks for sharing.
Old 21st December 2012
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Will do, my friend!

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Steve baby,
very cool buddy,
I have something ready to go we really need to talk about~!

Call me......(again)
Old 21st December 2012
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Wow, Mike!!!!

You are the first person to notice that plexiglas panel, without me pausing the video and pointing it out.

Yes, since Boris' was essentially singing in the drum booth, I needed just a bit more isolation without losing the visual! But, more importantly, I didn't want Boris' voice getting into the (M149) omni drum mic I set up just a few feet in front of him!


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That is incredible!!

What is the clear plastic panel in front of the singer for? Isolation?

Love it!

-Mike
Old 21st December 2012
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I have already told you this, but: wow.....
This is such a fantastic band, I loooooooove this song and I looooove the sound of it.. Really man.. fantastic... It sounds better than their studio album.
Is this song on an album somewhere? I cannot find it on itunes or Spotify.
There may be a studio version, but this version of the song is not available as of yet.

We're discussing our options!

This was intended to be for demonstation only, so...
Old 21st December 2012
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Steve, one of the great high points on this board is when you trot out some of your magic. I have some of your CD's which have that same subtle magic. The magic is so good that we do not know it is magic, and you show how repeatable it is. Always an inspiration as an RE and as a man. Hat's off to you.
Old 21st December 2012
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That's awesome!

I never heard of these cats, but great minds (clearly) think alike!
Ha! Never thought I'd see Jam in the Van posted here. I engineered all of their Live at SXSW stuff (and some earlier LA tracks). All tracked on a Studiolive with MXL mics (they're a sponsor). I mixed em all in Nuendo. Hardest part of it all was dealing with monitoring. The PA had to be directly in front of the band (we're only dealing with an 8x8ft live room here...), so spill was a bitch. The results always surprised me though! Like this guy: Peach Kings - "Like a Stone" - YouTube
Old 21st December 2012
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very cool!
Old 21st December 2012
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Thanks, Sandy!

I believe my approach has a lot to do with how I capture a band.
For me it doesn't matter what genre of music they play; what matters more is if they have that special something that separates them from the rest.

Great talent is key, but not always the most important if they have the right vibe.

You see, I like to bring out the best in what a band can do instead of slapping on "my sound" that may or may not sound right.

It's about the balance and how I want the sound to affect you, especially when there's visuals involved too.

Many folks like to through on that same ole' same ole' and call it a day.
I like to step back and absorb what I'm about to work with before I even attack it sonically.

FYI, it took me quite a few weeks just to find the right motivation for the mix.
I needed to figure out what the anchor was in the mix. Usually, it's the drums or the bass (IMHO like with the Beatles,) but I realized it wasn't that, it was the Boris' vocals.

I realized I needed to surround Boris' voice with the instruments instead of blending his vocals into the mix.

I wanted to change the game with regard to this style of music.
I take a fresh look each and every time I work (engineer/producer) with a band!

This could have sounded like every other band out there, but it wasn't going to happen! I hear (and see) things differently than most folks.

I can mix (or track) a punk band on Monday, a jazz trio on Tuesday and a pop band a week from Thursday and they will all have something in common to one another...





They all sound exactly like they should without sounding like everyone else!
I don't know how to do it any other way...


Well, I actually do, but I choose not to;-)


I'm looking forward to my next live performance recording later tonight!
We load-in to City Winery (on Varick street, NYC) in the (12.21.12) morning.

I'm recording Los Lobos during their three night stay there.
What a great band they are; I cannot wait to make them sound exactly like they should sound.



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Steve, one of the great high points on this board is when you trot out some of your magic. I have some of your CD's which have that same subtle magic. The magic is so good that we do not know it is magic, and you show how repeatable it is. Always an inspiration as an RE and as a man. Hat's off to you.
Old 21st December 2012
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That "Jam in the Van" concept is pretty rad!

Kudos to you and yours, ajcdrum!

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Ha! Never thought I'd see Jam in the Van posted here. I engineered all of their Live at SXSW stuff (and some earlier LA tracks). All tracked on a Studiolive with MXL mics (they're a sponsor). I mixed em all in Nuendo. Hardest part of it all was dealing with monitoring. The PA had to be directly in front of the band (we're only dealing with an 8x8ft live room here...), so spill was a bitch. The results always surprised me though! Like this guy: Peach Kings - "Like a Stone" - YouTube
Old 21st December 2012
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Absolutely fabulous. There really isn't anything more to say...
Old 21st December 2012
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The HD youtube actually sounds pretty good, compressionwise. I've ripped it to put on my Ipod, is that legal?
To compensate, I've bought their album on Itunes
Old 21st December 2012
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nice stuff Steve!
Old 21st December 2012
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Silly question---where were YOU during the recording? Is the truck big enough that there is a sep. CR, or did you record from another truck or what?

philp
Old 21st December 2012
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Silly question---where were YOU during the recording? Is the truck big enough that there is a sep. CR, or did you record from another truck or what?

philp
In post #1 Steve indicates he used another truck.
Old 22nd December 2012
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The title of this thread says it all!

"Elroy (STU) & The Bread Mobile (CRM) capture "Hey Guy" on 13 GoPro cameras!"

We used Elroy as the studio space and The Bread Mobile was used as the control room!

Click on the links to see the two mobile units.



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Silly question---where were YOU during the recording? Is the truck big enough that there is a sep. CR, or did you record from another truck or what?

philp

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In post #1 Steve indicates he used another truck.
Old 22nd December 2012
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Absolutely fabulous. There really isn't anything more to say...
It's in your face without being in your face!

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The HD youtube actually sounds pretty good, compressionwise. I've ripped it to put on my Ipod, is that legal?
To compensate, I've bought their album on Itunes
We spent a lot of time testing the clip in private mode before we launched it!
it does, look and sound pretty decent - it's sounds pretty awesome in lo-res too!


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nice stuff Steve!
Thanks, bro!
Old 24th December 2012
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Thanks!

I was going for a Hi-Fi sounding mix, which is unheard of in this genre of music.

We people tell me there's not enough snap on the snare and bass drum and the vocals are too loud, I say, YES! That's what I was going for.

I mean, the visual is giving you all that "in your face" (instruments) thing.
I wanted the viewer to listen to the vocals without the instruments getting in the way.

You will also notice that this sounds pretty decent on all sorts of systems.
You can hear each and every part clearly without blowing your brains out.

Hey, I'll spill the beans about the production; just come up with the questions and I shall comply!
Okay some questions then
what was your vocal chain? Which frequencies did you boost and or cut?
Kick mic same question, the overheads also sound fantastic!
Old 25th December 2012
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Awesome, some questions...

Keeping in mind that Boris' was singing essentially inside the "drum booth," so I had to address his vocals with a completely different approach. I shall discuss the vocal chain and which frequencies were cut and boost when I'm in front of my PT session.

I has two mics on the bass drum; a M88 on the skin and an e602 in the hole.
The crazy thing about the kick sound is the fact that the bass drum moved a bit and the skin was touching the M88. When you soloed to the M88 it sounded awful, but when I blended in just a small amount of the M88 to the e602 it sounded tremendous to me. It sounded like a marching band bass drum, so I went with it.

The overheads were M160s positioned exactly like I always position them.
I had a M149 (with a micro gobo above it, so it can deflect the ride cymbal sound a bit) in my "Right Knee" position.

I was trying to reinvent my mixing approach on this song, so I was into this deep inward visceral mindset more than usual.

I will get into more of the details once I can open my PT session.

Any other thoughts or questions about how I captured and mixed this live performance music video?


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Okay some questions then
what was your vocal chain? Which frequencies did you boost and or cut?
Kick mic same question, the overheads also sound fantastic!
Old 25th December 2012
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Did you use analog compression on the way in for the vocal?
Merry christmas by the way!
Old 25th December 2012
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Signal chain for every input was as follows.

Microphones were patched into the True Systems Precision8 preamps split into two Tascam X48 recorders and that was it.

All instruments were plugged into their own amps that were mic'd except for the bass which also had a (Juice Box) tube direct box.

All signal processing was handle in the "box" using Pro Tools 9.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, huub!

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Did you use analog compression on the way in for the vocal?
Merry christmas by the way!
Old 25th December 2012
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Wow, Mike!!!!

You are the first person to notice that plexiglas panel, without me pausing the video and pointing it out.

Yes, since Boris' was essentially singing in the drum booth, I needed just a bit more isolation without losing the visual! But, more importantly, I didn't want Boris' voice getting into the (M149) omni drum mic I set up just a few feet in front of him!
That's awesome - I noticed right away - that's a brilliant idea and the vocals sound fantastic!!!

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All instruments were plugged into their own amps that were mic'd except for the bass which also had a (Juice Box) tube direct box

Where are the amps situated? Do you have any isolation on them? I think I see some at the edges of the room?

Is the violin through a DI?

Can you tell me more about the round gobos you have throughout the truck?

You rock Steve!

-Mike
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