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AB with figure 8 - good results when doing live recordings?
Old 11th May 2006
Gear Maniac

AB with figure 8 - good results when doing live recordings?


This thread is mainly intended to discuss the use of AB figure 8 setups.

I have an upcoming concert in a medium size (ca. 15m x15m x 40m) church with tons of reverb. I have some expirience with this church and the orchestra. They want to sit 10mx10m.

It is going to be a conservatory orchestra performance with Schuman 4th and Saint Sans cello concerto.

I was thinking about placing a wide AB (80cm-1m) figure 8 pair roughly 4m away from the conductor 4m high (unfortunately in the audience) in order to catch not too much room and less audience compared to a cardioid. There will also be a large tree setup (3m spread and 3m high, center 1m in front) and spots for the woods, brass, solo cello and timpani.

What do you think?



Last edited by leifislive; 11th May 2006 at 07:15 PM..
Old 11th May 2006
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T.RayBullard's Avatar

I dont know about AB, but I have had great success with Bafffled 8s!

all the great things from Jecklin Disc, with a deeper soundstage....incredible!! Ina good room, anyway.
Old 11th May 2006
This is sometimes called the "Faulkner technique", after Tony Faulkner, who popularized it. But I read an interview with him in which he stated that he'd switched mostly to spaced cardioids. You might want to keep that in mind as another option, if spaced figure-eights don't do what you want in the hall.

David L. Rick
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Old 11th May 2006
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If I'm not mistaken, the Faulkner phased array is only 20cm apart.

IMO putting them at 80cm will create very funny ping pong stereo, and a more ambient result than two cardioids.
Old 12th May 2006
Gear Maniac

Hi, thanks for your answers so far. I plan to use not as the main mic, but rather mix it with the tree to roughly equal level. Therefore I chose the rather spaced configuration.

I may just try and set up both a cardioid and an 8 or a coincident omni and figure 8 in order to mix any characteristic possible.

What about that?

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