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Why use external microphones?

Complete new to this subject fo field recording and want to know as much as possible. I want to achieve quality productions. Sometimes i hear people say that a portable microphone is enough. On the other hand i see many field recordists use a portable microphone to just record what their external microphones picks up.

Why do many people who do field recording use a portable microphone (Zoom h5 or so) and then also use external microphones?
Why will an XLR cable instead of a 3.5" jack input give less hiss?

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Because the external microphones are a better quality? Or because you can position them differently than the built in mics?
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Because the external microphones are a better quality? Or because you can position them differently than the built in mics?
Yes probably that will be a good reason. You can point to some specif something.
What can be a good way to reduce hiss. Will external microphones with XLR cables give less noise than recording straight into a portable recorder?
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Yes, high quality microphones are quieter assuming the preamps in the recorder are not a limiting factor.
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Electret mic always a little noisy, even DPA
External SDC into a proper screened /balanced pre amp will always sound better.
Handling noise from the casing is eliminated too.
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Yes probably that will be a good reason. You can point to some specif something.
Not just pointing at something specific, but also allowing different microphone placement: e.g. on a high stand, on a boom pole or, especially, for different stereo mic setups simply not possible with the onboard mics of a handheld recorder (e.g. a spaced pair of omni mics).

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Roland
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Yes, high quality microphones are quieter assuming the preamps in the recorder are not a limiting factor.
Well very possibly, though the OP may not be aware that you can get high-quality mics with high self-noise, especially where fig 8 SDC mics are concerned and, above, all where capsules are small (think Earthworks omni mics, and even the most expensive lavalier mics - the latter often used for nature recording too).

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Not sure what the OP has in mind by 'field recording', but if outside, then external mics offer much better scope for proper wind protection vs those slip-on furry windscreens that cover part of a handheld recorder (but which are much better than nothing).

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Roland
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I have always viewed "shavers" (broadly defined to encompass any relatively inexpensive recorder/mics combo) useful strictly as convenient "bitbuckets" (i.e., fed a line output from a mixer at a conference or other live PA gig where tracking isn't necessary)... or as a "down and dirty" solution with a "decent" stereo mic. My RODE NT-4, self-powered via internal 9v, through the factory 5-pin out to miniTRS output plug, runs rings around the onboards from either the ca.2008 Edirol R09HR (still in regular use at conferences) or the ca.2018 TEAC DR-05 (primarily for back-up, and for "second room" needs) when it comes to recording music. My current "small" standalone location kit is a TASCAM DR-60D fed by Line Audio CM3 or Sennheiser MKH8040 pairs. The difference is not subtle... especially if the "field recording" involves instances like actually being in a field or forest and trying to capture distant, low-level "natural" sounds.

As always, one generally gets pretty much what one pays for, in this biz...

HB
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