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Old 10th December 2019
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Ricardo is a colleague of mine. If you guys have any specific questions I could ask him.
It would be interesting to know some details about the setup, mics, pres, placement.

Thank you.
Old 11th December 2019
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It would be interesting to know some details about the setup, mics, pres, placement.

Thank you.
I gave Ricardo a shout to visit the topic.
Old 11th December 2019
  #63
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I gave Ricardo a shout to visit the topic.
What a nice thing to do!


- Ray H.

BTW, so much of the material on your sites is really nice. Keep up the great work!
Old 20th December 2019
  #64
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Beautiful recorded sound from Marcelo Kayath and Ricardo Marui in that Suites & Sonatas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHi3e8zCOHE
For comparison, here is Aniello Desiderio - also via Ricardo Marui. Of course, the Rodrigo piece is far from Bach - as are Aniello Desiderio's technique's far from Marcelo Kayath's.

But one should be able to appreciate the [I think, huge] difference between the very nice Alessandro Marseglia guitar [played by Aniello] and the extraordinary Hermann Hasuser 1 [played by Marcelo]. [1]




My point would be that one is never, ever going to get close to this Hauser with this Marseglia [nor, barring poor string selection, vice versa]. . .

. . .and, to share another very fun recording from Ricardo.


Enjoy,

Ray H.


[1] String selection can also make an enormous difference on classical guitars - more so on some models than others. And results vary widely how well a given set of strings works on one guitar vs. a different guitar for the player's objectives. A given set can be rich, inviting and sparkly on one axe - but thin and irritating or dull on another. I'm assuming that both of these talented, highly experienced players have made such selections based on their personal preferences - which may likely also be different.
Old 21st December 2019
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String selection can also make an enormous difference on classical guitars - more so on some models than others. A given set can be rich, inviting and sparkly on one axe - but thin and irritating or dull on another.
And all along I thought it was just my crappy technique!

Old 21st December 2019
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And all along I thought it was just my crappy technique! [. . .]
Yes, apologies for the elementary info, Robert.

The intention of the post was to focus on dissimilar instrument models recorded by a single person with a strong, established and respected style - Ricardo Marui had already been presented.

I was strongly resisting the footnote when writing the post. But felt honesty in the argument must emphasize how far an otherwise great set of strings can pull down the greatest of classical guitars. . .and settled on the notion that something like it was a required caveat for more casual readers.

Assuming one is only switching between the 'best' from high-quality string vendors, I don't know that I have ever seen such gargantuan deltas on steel-string acoustic guitars, or electric guitars of any kind, or banjos, or Dobros, etc.? High-end classical guitars [the instruments themselves] are just a very different kind of game there in my experience.

However, if anyone does complain about your technique, just tell them I gave you a bad set of strings - I'll back you up.


Best wishes,

Ray H.
Old 21st December 2019
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I meant it! My technique sucks! It is, however, encouraging that possibly a change of strings might improve the tone I get in my recordings. Plus, I'm saddled with a less than wonderful instrument. I played a $1500 Yamaha in our local store recently, and shall we say, I think I know where my Christmas bonus is going. Sure, it ain't no Hauser . . . but it's certainly an improvement over my current Cordoba.
Old 1 week ago
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These shots, and the accompanying Soundcloud are from Stefano Amerio's studio in Udine, Artesuono. Stefano is an engineer for ECM as well as for independent projects like Maciek Pysz, the guitarist here. As you can see, in each case it's a pair of TLM 103s spaced close enough to create a stereo image, but not generate too much phase cancellation in mono.

I've been playing with this setup, it's better than most - I suspect my room could better though. . . Oh, and I have also tried setting the mics at figure 8 as well (obviously I don't have TLM 103s!). That makes a pseudo Faulkner Array, I guess. ;~)

Wow, beautiful, thanks for sharing... these mics really have a great response... sound like the right LDCs are a good way to go...
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