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Stero pair to record classical music
Old 23rd September 2018
  #241
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Now I can buy a pair of used km184, are they a good solution for to record classical music and orchestra? In this case with an ortf pair of km184 and two line audio om1 on the side?
Old 23rd September 2018
  #242
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Originally Posted by zorba1977 View Post
Now I can buy a pair of used km184, are they a good solution for to record classical music and orchestra? In this case with an ortf pair of km184 and two line audio om1 on the side?
Hi Zorba,

The 184s will certainly work. I could make a recording with those tools.

With that said, if I had more choices I wouldn't choose 184s for orchestra mains. If I wanted cardiod pattern I would look at dpa 4011s , mkh 8040/40, or Schoeps. I've also used MBHO, which I can recommend for the budget minded.

If the deal on the used 184s is really good ($1200 USD is normal) and you're comfortable with a 'sharp' sound... Go for it!
Old 23rd September 2018
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I love the KM184 on double bass. Great sound!
Old 24th September 2018
  #244
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I have a pair of 184s that I've used a number of times on baroque orchestras, usually in a Faulkner array with either Shure KSM 141s for omnis or, more recently, 3Uaudio CM100 with omni capsules (Schoeps and DPAs are just not in the budget at the moment). I've been very happy with the 184s on all kinds of sources, and the 3U mics are voiced with the 18x series in mind, so they make a pretty nice combination for the budget-conscious. I haven't found the 184s to be sharp or unpleasant at all, just clean, clear, and perhaps a bit finicky regarding placement and preamp selection. Haven't worked with the Line Audio mics yet but I'd think you'd get perfectly decent captures using them with the Neumanns.
Old 3 weeks ago
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David - every time I hear someone claiming the virtue of the km140 while implying that the km184 is somehow lesser quality makes me want to show once again that they sound virtually identical. I used both mics for years interchangeably - they are excellent mics for many applications.
I use to have both, and in solo there is not much difference. The km184 needs just a bit more EQ but nothing to worry about.
My problem with the km184 was that it doesn’t sit es well in the mix as the KM140.
when the music is getting louder the km184 seem to disappear, the side adres seems to be different as well. The side adress problem we also noticed with Choirs. It is always a fight to get and keep it right with the KM184 and have a walk in the park with the KM140.

That was the reason that we sold our KM184 and now we have 12 KM140/KM150/KMS140/KM120 and are extremely happy with them.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Originally Posted by Fioraxy View Post
the side adres seems to be different as well. The side adress problem we also noticed with Choirs.
So the KM 184 capsule would be different from the AK 40 ?
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Old 3 weeks ago
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Originally Posted by didier.brest View Post
So the KM 184 capsule would be different from the AK 40 ?
Neumann is saying that it is the same capsule. Don’t know if the backplate is the same.
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