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Question for Steve (Remoteness) re: drum mic Condenser Microphones
Old 24th August 2015
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steve, thank you for the info. have fun recording and mixing!
Old 25th August 2015
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Thanks!

It turned out to be a great success.

We booked two days for tracking and we were hoping to get some overdubs done at the end of the second day. We ended up tracking all the tunes in one day and even got all the lead GTR overdubs in that same day.

Very impressive situation and the tunes came out great too!

Everyone walked away feeling really good about it all.


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steve, thank you for the info. have fun recording and mixing!
Old 23rd November 2015
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While checking an entirely different GS thread ("What guitar amp did they use at Rudy Van Gelder's studio?"), i noticed this photo of the Bill Evans Trio recording at RVG mkII studio (Englewood Cliffs) and it dawned on me that ol' secretive cat RVG was also keen on the Knee mic position (augmented w. another mic same height-other side, probably to accentuate hh/sd presence and/or stereo image).
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Old 1 week ago
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Great thread thanks for the tips and tricks.

Is anyone still using the technique of placing the foam-wrapped mic on top of the kick drum?

I'm interested in the one mic drum method but my drummer has two touted toms and I don't think I could easily use a mic stand to properly position the mic.
Old 1 week ago
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Great thread thanks for the tips and tricks.

Is anyone still using the technique of placing the foam-wrapped mic on top of the kick drum?

I'm interested in the one mic drum method but my drummer has two touted toms and I don't think I could easily use a mic stand to properly position the mic.
Placing the mic on a piece of foam on top of the bass drum will work well as long as you listen while the drummer is playing and position the Mike accordingly.
Old 3 days ago
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Placing the mic on a piece of foam on top of the bass drum will work well as long as you listen while the drummer is playing and position the Mike accordingly.
What a great thread !!

Stellar results Steve! hats off to you!
I'm re-reading this old thread.. very nice!

Have you used shoeps cmc5 mk4 (or cmc6) as OH instead of the Beyer M160?
do you still have that focusrite console in your studio? looks fantastic!

I find the beyer quite bright, I've used with success on several gtr cabs, works well on certain type of sounds/gtrs.

Ciao



Cheu
Old 3 days ago
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What a great thread !!

Stellar results Steve! hats off to you!
I'm re-reading this old thread.. very nice!

Have you used shoeps cmc5 mk4 (or cmc6) as OH instead of the Beyer M160?
do you still have that focusrite console in your studio? looks fantastic!

I find the beyer quite bright, I've used with success on several gtr cabs, works well on certain type of sounds/gtrs.

Ciao



Cheu
Thanks! We have an amazing group of individuals in the Remote Possibilities... forum.

I have not used cmc5 mk4 or cmc6 over the drum kit. I am quite pleased with the sound I get using M160s.

That Focusrite console is still in the studio, it's not my facility. That's a studio called iiwii which is in the SST building in Weehawken, NJ.

That's interesting, I don't find the M160s bright at all.

Here's a couple of pictures showing the M160s in action...
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Old 3 days ago
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Thanks! We have an amazing group of individuals in the Remote Possibilities... forum.

I have not used cmc5 mk4 or cmc6 over the drum kit. I am quite pleased with the sound I get using M160s.

That Focusrite console is still in the studio, it's not my facility. That's a studio called iiwii which is in the SST building in Weehawken, NJ.

That's interesting, I don't find the M160s bright at all.

Here's a couple of pictures showing the M160s in action...
...and, here is the final product for the second picture. Keep in mind, I captured the origination for Apple Music and did not mix the tune for this video.

To Mom. For dad, drew and holly.

Apple Music ❤️ Beats 1
Old 3 days ago
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...That Focusrite console is still in the studio, it's not my facility. That's a studio called iiwii which is in the SST building in Weehawken, NJ...
A bit OT, but it is an amazing story how that console, or parts of it, arose like the proverbial phoenix after Hurricane Sandy: iiWii (click on "Past and Present" or scroll down to the text).

The studio is less than a mile from where my daughter lives; I wish I had known when I was down visiting her at Christmas...next time I'll hve to make the pilgrimage!
Old 3 days ago
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Originally Posted by Remoteness View Post
Thanks! We have an amazing group of individuals in the Remote Possibilities... forum.

I have not used cmc5 mk4 or cmc6 over the drum kit. I am quite pleased with the sound I get using M160s.

That Focusrite console is still in the studio, it's not my facility. That's a studio called iiwii which is in the SST building in Weehawken, NJ.

That's interesting, I don't find the M160s bright at all.

Here's a couple of pictures showing the M160s in action...
Nice!
Thanks Steve!

I've used the shoeps several times, and find them very nice, they pick up more room than the 414eb I've also used, and sounds a little bit more "diffused" than the 414, also less hard. Although on some material the 414eb are good!

Need to test the 160 out one day in these configuration..
I find it rather bright on the gtr amps.. very lively.. So I'm afraid that will be too much for some pop/rock cymbal hitters..

Thanks again,



Cheu
Old 3 days ago
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Nice!
Thanks Steve!

I've used the shoeps several times, and find them very nice, they pick up more room than the 414eb I've also used, and sounds a little bit more "diffused" than the 414, also less hard. Although on some material the 414eb are good!

Need to test the 160 out one day in these configuration..
I find it rather bright on the gtr amps.. very lively.. So I'm afraid that will be too much for some pop/rock cymbal hitters..

Thanks again,



Cheu


I use the M160s to get more of the kit and less of the room. If I want to capture the room I set up additional mics.

IMHO, it's all about how you position them when using M160s for overheads. I don't find them bright at all. They sound perfect as drum overheads for my taste.

Take a listen to the other videos that I've posted in this thread and you will see exactly how the M160s sound on the various music genres.
Old 3 days ago
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I use the M160s to get more of the kit and less of the room. If I want to capture the room I set up additional mics.
That's also what I do with OH..
I've just wanted to say that they (shoeps) get a little bit more "space" compared to the 414 and sound less hard.

In your clips they sound perfect.. Should really test them out.. Need to buy a second one

Do you have any rules regarding distances between them and between the "right knee" mic?

Thanks again Steve!

Take care,
Ciao

Cheu
Old 2 days ago
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That's also what I do with OH..
I've just wanted to say that they (shoeps) get a little bit more "space" compared to the 414 and sound less hard.

In your clips they sound perfect.. Should really test them out.. Need to buy a second one

Do you have any rules regarding distances between them and between the "right knee" mic?

Thanks again Steve!

Take care,
Ciao

Cheu
It really depends on the situation and environment we are in. I usually listen to the drums in the room and make my mic placement decisions accordingly. As you can see in the photos I like to get those overheads as high as possible over the drum kit. Positioning the right knee microphone has a lot to do with the drummer how the kit is set up. Each capture is its own story on how it gets done.
Old 14 hours ago
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Here's a link to the Focusrite documentary which includes the Super Storm Sandy story at 25:26...




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A bit OT, but it is an amazing story how that console, or parts of it, arose like the proverbial phoenix after Hurricane Sandy: iiWii (click on "Past and Present" or scroll down to the text).

The studio is less than a mile from where my daughter lives; I wish I had known when I was down visiting her at Christmas...next time I'll hve to make the pilgrimage!
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