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An alternative to Soundfield and other multi-element mics ? Reverb & Delay Plugins
Old 31st August 2017
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An alternative to Soundfield and other multi-element mics ?

Zylia ZM-1 spherical 19-element mic array...looks intriguing, although reading behind the review it seems the software support hasn't matured yet ?

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/zylia-zm-1
Old 6th September 2017
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I do want to hear this mic. Polish design has me intrigued.
Old 13th September 2017
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Hi!

I've just opened the following thread:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remo...l#post12845915

EDIT: Deleted already ;-)

Come join us!

Adam

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Old 14th September 2017
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Hi!

I've just opened the following thread:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remo...l#post12845915

Come join us!

Adam
I suspect that the referenced thread was a little too close to an advertisement to stay up on the forum. But once the mic is past the Indiegogo stage and widely available I am sure we will be hearing from some dedicated slutz about just how it performs...
Old 14th September 2017
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Zylia Portable Recording Studio at Indiegogo

We start today - thanks for the support!

Starting at $299 - early bird discounts!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/z...ic/coming_soon

Pawel
Old 14th September 2017
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Very interesting, but it is not clear to me how you could record non-point sources, like atmospheres, in surround. And also do you need the computer - since going out would be easier to hook up into a multichannel recorder like Sound devices.
Old 15th September 2017
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Yes, you connect the ZYLIA with a USB cable to the computer.

We've started the Indiegogo campaign yesterday:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/z...ording-music#/

Old 16th September 2017
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Very interesting, but in the Youtube video, I am surprised that your microphone is very low for recording orchestras.
https://youtu.be/OJSiMGMQv8s
For this recording, how was done the separation between instruments ?
Old 16th September 2017
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Hello sd-cd,

I am really interested in what your company is doing.

On your YouTube video you have a good pickup on the cello soloist and the horn. But strings and winds are in the distance. It is not a proper balance.

If you elevated your microphone, would it give a good result as it "looked down" on the ensemble?

Or does it need to be at a level where the front capsules need to "look" at the ensemble?

with thanks,

Pllush PHLUSH
Old 19th September 2017
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Very interesting, but in the Youtube video, I am surprised that your microphone is very low for recording orchestras.
https://youtu.be/OJSiMGMQv8s
For this recording, how was done the separation between instruments ?
Mathieujm!

Thanks for the question.

There is no separation involved here.

It was a binaural recording.

Below is a great Pro Tools Expert review of the ZYLIA.
I think it explains a lot of things questioned in the thread.

Part 1


Part 2


On the bottom of our Indiegogo page there is a FAQ section worth checking as well:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/z...ording-music#/

For example:
"CAN I CONTROL THE LEVEL OF SEPARATION?
Yes, you have two options included in 'ZYLIA Studio' related to virtual microphones.

Preset no.1 : filters and cut a specific section of the 3D sound preserving the ambience and room acoustic.

Preset no.2 : takes into account the localization of interfered sources which leads to removing unwanted noises and ambience."

I hope this helps.

Old 4th October 2017
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I checked this out pretty closely at NAMM in Anaheim. Seemed like a decent idea but it wasn't well implemented. Their demos were clearly processed and I could never just solo each of the elements to listen to exactly what was going on with their software. Perhaps things have changed in 9 months.
Old 4th October 2017
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I wonder how would it be possible
to get 19 good quality mics with good preamps without costing a fortune?
or are they 19 low-quality mics with
low-quality preamps?
Old 4th October 2017
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I wonder how would it be possible
to get 19 good quality mics with good preamps without costing a fortune?
or are they 19 low-quality mics with
low-quality preamps?
I have to think that's pretty evident. Sometimes you can get a good result with cheap parts though.

I was watching the video and it gives me the impression it is like an automated version of a tetrahedral mic. I have a Tetramic, and I can make it a hyper cardioid and move it around until I find a particular instrument, then maybe gate it etc and build a multi track mix out of a single point capture (done it once or twice to "spot mic" an intrument). Even the Tetramic is over a grand though with 4 inexpensive capsules.

Come to think of it, with 19 cheap mics what is the noise like? I wonder if there's some DSP going on that removes it?
Old 4th October 2017
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Exactly-Noise level?-one of my concerns.
Old 14th November 2017
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When i first saw this I thought, "that takes a lot of balls, Rode....calling your new mic Soundfield.." Then I remembered that there was a total buy-up/takeover of S by R late in 2016.

This is presumably the result ? VideoMic SoundField to Feature on National TV Show “Australia By Design Innovation"

More detail from 25 mins into this video: https://vimeo.com/199946849

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Old 9th April 2018
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Rumored to be announced this week...

Rode Soundfield NT-SF1

RODE NT-SF1
Old 9th April 2018
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Rumored to be announced this week...

Rode Soundfield NT-SF1

RODE NT-SF1
Fantastic! Waiting for a price.

Does this type of multi-capsule mic get decoded with hardware or software in a DAW?
Old 9th April 2018
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Rumored to be announced this week...

Rode Soundfield NT-SF1

RODE NT-SF1
will be interesting to compare this against existing soundfield and neuheiser mics...

(maybe it will get shown at nab/f'furt?)
Old 9th April 2018
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Given the promo info and the price it’s got to be just a mic that delivers 4 capsule feeds (like the
Soundfield SPS200, Sennheiser Ambeo VR, Tetramic) that requires separate preamps, ADC and then software decoding to B-Format, stereo, surround etc.
Only the more expensive Soundfield mics: analog
ST450 MKII and digital DSF-1 ( and earlier SF models) come with dedicated preamp/processors that can output a stereo decode as well as B-format output for later software decoding.
Old 10th April 2018
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Given the promo info and the price it’s got to be just a mic that delivers 4 capsule feeds (like the
Soundfield SPS200, Sennheiser Ambeo VR, Tetramic) that requires separate preamps, ADC and then software decoding to B-Format, stereo, surround etc.
Only the more expensive Soundfield mics: analog
ST450 MKII and digital DSF-1 ( and earlier SF models) come with dedicated preamp/processors that can output a stereo decode as well as B-format output for later software decoding.
Partnerships like this make for pretty fierce competition: Sound Devices - SOUND DEVICES ANNOUNCES NEW VR PARTNERSHIP WITH SENNHEISER
Old 10th April 2018
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Curious about the relative quality of the capsules of the new Rode mic vs SPS200 vs the Ambeo VR? Too bad the Ambeo didn’t utilize
their best (MKH) capsules- (a cost-saving measure).
Old 13th April 2018
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Partnerships like this make for pretty fierce competition: Sound Devices - SOUND DEVICES ANNOUNCES NEW VR PARTNERSHIP WITH SENNHEISER
Indeed, if Rode doesn't do them same with their NT-SF1 to partner with Zoom / Sound Devices MixPre to do B format decoding then it will make more sense to spend extra for the Sennheiser AMBEO instead.
Old 13th April 2018
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Indeed, if Rode doesn't do them same with their NT-SF1 to partner with Zoom / Sound Devices MixPre to do B format decoding then it will make more sense to spend extra for the Sennheiser AMBEO instead.
methinks there's gonna be a whole lot of standing-back, arms-folded, waiting behaviour from potential customers in the immediate future...and maybe some monetary discount-inducements to sway folks in particular directions also forthcoming....
Old 13th April 2018
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methinks there's gonna be a whole lot of standing-back, arms-folded, waiting behaviour from potential customers in the immediate future...and maybe some monetary discount-inducements to sway folks in particular directions also forthcoming....
Would be rash indeed to buy a Sennheiser AMBEO within the next few months unless you need NEED it sooner. (and I could just rent a SPS200 until then anyway)
Old 21st September 2018
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Has anyone tried the Zylia Pro?

I am especially interested about using it with an Ambisonic output.

What about the sound quality, tonal balance, etc?
Old 29th September 2018
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Here's a Zylia un-boxing.
Old 29th September 2018
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Here's a Zylia un-boxing.
Dang- I was hoping that they would take the thing all apart... those are my fav kind of unboxing videos.
Old 30th September 2018
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The unboxing doesn't say a lot about sound quality obviously.
Old 1 week ago
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so, at this point, did anybody tried the rode NT-SF1?
Is there any review around?
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