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Anyone using Schoeps MK22 for main pair? Condenser Microphones
Old 8th January 2018
  #31
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Originally Posted by mpdonahue View Post
We've got 10 of the MK22/CMC6 here at Soundmirror. When they first came out, everybody loved them for string spots. However, over the years I have gone back to my old tried and true choices.
In order:
  • MK21
  • MK5
  • MK4
  • mk22
I find that it is much like the MK2H. When it came out we all used it for a period of time, but now a days, they almost never leave the mic cabinet.
As always, YMMV.
All the best,
-mark
Hi Mark, I always appreciate your input on this forum. And thank you for this list -- interesting to consider that. If you can find a moment, I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts specifically on why the Mk22 is not always a good choice in your/Soundmirror's experience, and conversely, what the situations are when you do typically find them a better choice than the other options you mentioned...

Many thanks again,
Luke
Old 8th January 2018
  #32
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Originally Posted by lukedamrosch View Post
Hi Mark, I always appreciate your input on this forum. And thank you for this list -- interesting to consider that. If you can find a moment, I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts specifically on why the Mk22 is not always a good choice in your/Soundmirror's experience, and conversely, what the situations are when you do typically find them a better choice than the other options you mentioned...

Many thanks again,
Luke
My all-time favorite string spot is the MK21. It just sounds right. It blends well and never jumps out of the picture. If I need something a little more directional, I'll go to the MK5, as they have a similar character. If the strings are a little bright, I'll switch to the MK4 (Which is think is on the dull side for string spots...) To my ear, the MK22 lacks "weight" for massed strings. Sorry I can't be more empirical.
All the best,
-mark
Old 11th January 2018
  #33
Thanks Mark! I really appreciate it.
Old 14th January 2018
  #34
Lives for gear
 

mk4/mk8/mk21/ortf/xy

i get to work with (small to medium) orchestras playing along with electronic/amplified instruments or jazz bands; i therefore prefer narrower pickup patterns on spot (and even section) mics and use mostly mk4's.

main is often ortf or mk 21 if l/c/r.

i used mk22's on (front and) rear ambi (wide a/b) switched to mk 2's and 'felt' (not heard/compared side by side) the room getting wider, but had to engage a slightly higher hipass (and switched front amby to shotguns pointing into the audience); so no more mk22's - good mic though, but not for my needs
Old 29th January 2018
  #35


Out of curiosity for how well they would work in a chamber setting, I just recorded a concert with the 22's. With the unique pattern, i opted for somewhere in between ORTF and NOS. About 100 degrees at approx 22 cm. Spots were used minimally. TLM107 in wide cardioid and a C617set on the harp. Worked alright I think.
Old 29th January 2018
  #36
Absolutely lovely, Daniel! I can't judge the stereo image on cans, but the full sound without any MK-4ish "pushyness" is exactly why I love those capsules. What spot were you using on the lower strings?

David L. Rick
Seventh String Recording
Old 29th January 2018
  #37
Very nice, and thank you for sharing! This is just the sort of real-world example I was hoping to hear...

I agree with David's comments above as well as Earcatcher's earlier opinion that the Mk22 seems to share a sonic smoothness family with the Mk2 and Mk8. Indeed, the overall texture of your recording reminds me of the natural and unstrained quality I am familiar with from using Mk2, but with the reduced ambience one would expect from directionals.

Thanks again!
Old 29th January 2018
  #38
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What spot were you using on the lower strings?
TLM107. Same as the high strings. A rather versatile and unobtrusive sounding mic IMO.
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