What's acceptable cheapest mixer for classical "line in" recording?
Old 9th June 2013
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What's acceptable cheapest mixer for classical "line in" recording?

Hi

if using anyhow at least some dedicated presimposing sources, what would you say is a acceptable mixer for passing line signals and evtl. a couple of mic signals and saving them to a multy teac recorder (tascam dr680)??
Is it basically only Mixwizard or Zed from AH?

Thanks.
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There's some really great engineers out there who either started on or moved to Mackies for their portability, so..... Fwiw. Actually Mackie Onyx's ive used had a cleaner sound IMO than my Mixwiz does.
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There's some really great engineers out there who either started on or moved to Mackies for their portability, so..... Fwiw. Actually Mackie Onyx's ive used had a cleaner sound IMO than my Mixwiz does.
Kevin, interesting you mentioned Mackie. I have seen it on this board as a good mixer, even the modest 1402 VLZ-3 that I have. I am sure used can be picked up quite cheaply. I have not worked with mine much. I am still way too new to mix live and prefer to do it in post.


PS - I just checked and they are US$400 new.
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Yeah in search of an answer I come here across posts saying classical got done on a Mackie. I guess if anyways you put line in then you might bypass the pres but still do you get any coloration?

Anything else (maybe better than a Mackie)? What do you make of the cheaper smaller Soundcrafts like edm6 I've heard their pres are very respectable.
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A small(ish) mixer often seen used on classical stuff in the UK is the DDA Interface. They're no longer available new but a good used one shouldn't be expensive. The Interface is bigger than the VLZ Mackies but has a much better build quality, is more readily serviceable and I think sounds noticeably better than any Mackie I've used - nicer sounding preamps, cleaner mix buss and useable EQ. I've found Mackies generally to have decent enough preamps but these are let down by the mix quality, a not very pleasant/useful EQ, and poor build quality/reliability. The DDAs are bigger and heavier but for me are worth the extra hassle as I feel they're just better sounding and more reliable mixers. YMMV of course.
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Thanks good tip.

What might happen with a soundtracs?? Say a topaz or fm series?
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Old 15th October 2014
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I started making recordings (including two contracted choral albums) with a Peavey 800S in the mid-'70s, and a small Yamaha PM430 in the early '80s)... and the mics I put in front of them made tons more difference than the board. The Primo cardioid pencil mics, Sony C55FETs and Beyer M260s were HUGELY more appropriate for most uses than my Sony ECMs and Shure 545s and 565s.

I own two Onyx consoles (1220 and 1640) and have done location tracking through both. I also own a DL 1608... though I haven't recorded on it as of yet, and a couple of StudioLive, the 24.4.2 and a 16.0.4. If you've got top-shelf mics (from Line Audio OM1 and CM3 to Schoeps, Sennheiser, Gefell, DPA and Neumann et al), and know how rightly to deploy them, a top-line mixer might get you the next 5% toward the goal that a humble little Mackie or PreSonus (with 8 to 16 channels of mic amps and AD conversion for what a single channel or two of boutique input and mix will cost) will leave off the table. Short a bit of abuse, any VLZ3 or 4 Mackie or XMax PreSonus in their recording mixers will nicely, and quietly, stay out of your way. Neither has "mojo" (another word for "pleasant harmonic distortion")... but, then, I like "clean and quiet."

MMV. One old guy's opinion, and worth every krona.

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Assuming you don't go significantly further down market than a current Mackie, the chances of anyone listening to your recording and saying "you should have used a better mixer" are pretty slim. Now, there's the other side of the coin, and that's the comments you might get when they actually see you using a Mackie during the recording. Then of course there may be audiophile sneers from people who couldn't actually tell the difference in a blind test.

Or maybe I'm getting cynical as well as deaf in my old age.
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Ok nice posts Gentlemen!

I've actually set my eyes on a A&H Zed420, I guess it fits the bill above (maybe does even a bit better on the audiophile sneer front?! )
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I've not seen any mention of budget and this will be more priced than the A&H desk you've mentioned but, the SSL X-Desk (no pre amps, just a line mixer with a few extras) would be a perfect fit for this situation.

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A used sony dmxr100
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