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Old 18th May 2006
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What do slutz use? I want to buy a neutral sounding set of cans, any recommendations?

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Old 18th May 2006
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Grado SR-125
Old 18th May 2006
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sony mdr-7509 (rich sound)
or akg k-701 (clean sound)
Old 18th May 2006
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Sony 7509's
Old 18th May 2006
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Originally Posted by ObnoxiousTyrant
Sony 7509's

Neutral????

how about bright and harsh ...... and scooped sounding in the mids?

NOT neutral.

how about H600's?

more fun to listen to regardless.

ps no headphone is perfect. (same for speakers)
Old 18th May 2006
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Grado SR-125
I like the Grado...I'm personally using the RS-1 pair. Serious detail in the mids and highs.
Old 19th May 2006
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AKG 701.

Only buy if you're prepared to feed it from a real headphone amp.

Cheers,

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Old 19th May 2006
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Grado RS-1. One of my favorite things.
Old 19th May 2006
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HD 600's

They are my pretend K+H o300d's for the time being.
Old 19th May 2006
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try audio technica ath-m40fs headphones...
Old 19th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StudioTinPanAll
sony mdr-7509 (rich sound)
or akg k-701 (clean sound)
Hey, what's the difference between 7509's and 7506's? Anybody know?
Old 19th May 2006
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I love my Grados...just enough hi-fi sound but still very accurate in the mid range. They're very comfortable too.
Old 19th May 2006
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i like sennheisser hd 600 very much
Old 19th May 2006
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Whatever you say I highly recommend sony's mdr series. They are probably not the most accurate headphones, but if you learn them, you will love them. It's again, like with studio monitors, it's really a personal choice. Personally I have never liked AKG phones, etc. Only try out will help you. I would even say never make deinite decisions after a few or a lot recommendations. Remeber that one man's happiness is the others' sadness.
Regards Tamas Dragon
Old 19th May 2006
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BEyerdynamic DT-770 Pro for about 8 years now...

Greetz,

Mike
Old 19th May 2006
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Any thoughts on AKG K240s?
Old 19th May 2006
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Sennheiser HD600 and Beyer DT770
Old 19th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apemandan
What do slutz use? I want to buy a neutral sounding set of cans, any recommendations?

Dan

Sennheiser HD600. A bonus: They're EXTREMELY comfortable to wear. I've NEVER heard a totally neutral set of cans, or loudspeakers, for that matter. That said, the Sennheiser's are pretty darn flat without any major peaks. I feel they're a bit "warm" or maybe a little heavy in the extreme bottom, but nothing that's an obstacle.

The 650s sound a little brighter or thinner to me and I prefer the 600s.

Another interesting phenomenon is unit-to-unit consistency is not so great so there are variances.

AKG has a new "super model" which I have not heard, but which Headroom's website has good things to say and is the "rival" to the HD600's but with a slightly brighter tonal balance.

Expect to pay good money for a "neutral" set of phones.
Old 19th May 2006
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The 650s sound a little brighter or thinner to me and I prefer the 600s.
My experience is exactly the opposite. I prefer the HD650 (and HD580). For me the HD600 was too bright, and too tightly on my head.

I guess choosing headphones is potentially more subjective than loudspeakers.
Try both and choose one
Old 19th May 2006
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AKG K701s are about as nuetral as you'll get. My opinions of the other hi end headphones:

Ultrasones: Proline 750s and 2500s: Can't believe that the ones I heard weren't broken. Hands down the worst sounding transducers I've ever come across.

Sennheisers: HD580s, 600s, 650s: Very pleasing to listen to. Definitely a tonal balance that leans towards the warm side. More laid back sound. Not particularly nuetral, but very enjoyable, relaxed listen. Probably my favorite can for casual listening.

Beyers: DT880, 831, 990: Brighter than the Senns, with a bigger bottom end as well. Fun to listen to, and pretty clear/detailed/accurate/etc. Probably my second favorite can for work.

Grados: Entire Line: Too fatiguing for me. They are bright, punchy, and in your face. I feel like I'm getting attacked when I'm wearing a pair. They're definitely detailed and smooth, but I can't stand them. They sound good, they're just not to my taste. Lots of people love them though, which goes to show that audio is all subjective.

AKGs: K601 701: Most nuetral cans I've ever heard. Very clear, detailed, clean. What you hear is what's there. These are the Dynaudios of the headphone world. If you're looking for a set of cans for casual listening, you'l lbe better served elsewhere, but for work and analyzing mixes, these things rock. Plus they are very comfortable. Highly reccomended.
Old 19th May 2006
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Reference headphones?

Stick an encyclopedia on each ear.
:-)

I use Beyer DT100's and DT770 pro's most of the time.

JR
Old 19th May 2006
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AKG K271

I like these a lot. Also good isolation for tracking. YMMV.

-kk
Old 19th May 2006
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Ditto the AKG701, very neutral and clean. But you need a good headphone amp to get everything they have to offer.
Old 19th May 2006
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I hate the Y cable on the Senn's. That and their spring connectors. If you have them or are considering getting any of the the Senn models that have the spring connectors, expect to have problems at some point with intermittent contact between the spring and the cable end connector. It's a fairly easy fix, but I think it's a poor design. Here's instructions for the fix, courtesy of "jeepy206":

http://www.pbase.com/jeepy206/580_intermittency_repairs

Also, the foam (next to the drivers and in the headband) on my old 545's rotted fairly quickly. That pissed me off, as well.

I do like the sound of a few of the Senn models, though. Too bad I don't think the design or build beyond the driver is quite there.

Pleather pads on AKG's piss me off, too. Glad to see they went with velour on the 701's.
Old 19th May 2006
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K 240 DF, diffuse-field equalized, made for professional sound engineers meet also the criteria of the IRT standard.

But what the heck you need headphones for, they are only usable for dummyhead recordings

.
Old 20th May 2006
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Check out a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M40fs or ATH-M30's with the M40fs being the most neutral of the two. Good luck.
Old 20th May 2006
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I use Senn. HD600's.
Old 20th May 2006
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Quote:
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Any thoughts on AKG K240s?

Too thin. Not "neutral enough". Not very comfortable over time, either.
Old 21st May 2006
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Thankyou everyone for your input. thumbsup

I will try a few different pairs to find what I like best. The HD600s seem like a good place to start..

Dan
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