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How much € if U start from scratch?
Old 16th June 2006
  #1
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How much € if U start from scratch?

I posted some mp3s and I realized from the feedback I got that the sound quality not only is bad, but maims the songs brutally.

So... I was wondering how much money would it cost 2 buy some stuff that I think it's indispensable 2 work properly and obtain a sound that, without being perfect or even good, would make my stuff listenable and judgeable (the idea is sending what I make 2 indie fanzines, music sites and small labels).

I think that I'll stick 2 Wavelab for the mixing part, but I should change everything else, I guess...

I need (I'll tell U what I have on my mind, but if u think anything else would be useful please tell me):

1) a mic or any other device 2 record the vocals;
2) a keyboard with a good choice of instruments and, above all, drums that don't sound ridicoulous;
3) the cables and the programs 2 connect 1) and 2) to the computer
4) I sample sounds from my cds using Wavelab. It's ok, but I can't really isolate the sounds I like from the others like they do in CSI (or I don't know hot 2 do that). Is that possible? I got some extremely good drums on thrash metal and metalcore cds that I'd love to use...

Ok, that should be all. Keep in mind that I'd like 2 keep it as cheap as possible as my income is almost non-existent.

What I do is intended 2 be hip-hop. Here are my mp3s in case U wanted 2 listen 2 my stuff 2 focalize on the problems:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/work-in-progress-advice-requested-show-and-tell-artist-showcase-mix-offs/73176-contaminating-x-ray.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/work-in-progress-advice-requested-show-and-tell-artist-showcase-mix-offs/73459-virgin-raper-23-a.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/work-in-progress-advice-requested-show-and-tell-artist-showcase-mix-offs/73131-amr2m-time-floods.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/work-in-progress-advice-requested-show-and-tell-artist-showcase-mix-offs/73237-amr2m-prodigal-pardon.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/work-in-progress-advice-requested-show-and-tell-artist-showcase-mix-offs/73757-al-paro-sin-ganas.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...126#post762126

thanx in advance, bye
Old 16th June 2006
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what have you been using up to this point? You might just need to practice more.
and Wavelab is a editing program and a mixing platform.

If you dont have anything...I would say start off small. You don't have to buy it all at once. A channel strip, mic, speakers, and a DAW. less than 2k, . Then as you grow just sell the old stuff and buy better gear.

Just don't let someone talk you into buying a sports car when you just passed the driving test yesterdayheh
Old 16th June 2006
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Yea a few things.

1) Start small
2) Don't think big. Seriously. Don't dream about an SSL in you room. Think about working instead, and maybe if you're lucky one will just appear there one day.
3) Only buy what you NEED. Like not, "I could maybe use this one day".
4) Go somewhere to try stuff out. Don't buy on price alone, but find someone that can give you good advice, good demos, and good service. Then don't screw them over and buy it on eBay. You're paying for service. Being a cheapass is bad karma.
5) Realize that you won't be able to EVER with ANY amount of equipment to 'unmix' a song, and remove the vocals, bass, guitar, and just leave the drums for you. Doesn't work that way. If you want to do things easier, and legit, contact a lawyer and have them get in contact with the publishing and record companies. If you need stuff for a remix, they MIGHT be able to get you the raw tracks. CSI is bull****.
Old 16th June 2006
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let's see...

I record the voice with a digital recorder, the kind journalists use for interviews. It's good quality, just not meant for music purposes.

For the music, I sample from the cds with wavelab and record from a really old keyboard/synthetizer.

I have a strange impression. To record the voice I put it on a cd and listen to it with a cd-player, "sing" along and record. Then I mix it. And it doesn't fit! I mean, I methodically pay attention to the rhytm, but when I mix it it's like I'm a bit too fast (don't know, like half a sec every minute). I don't know what happens. I think it might be the cd player, or the digital recorder. It's just weird...

Can you please briefly explain what is every piece of equipment you're suggesting? thanks
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