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Old 15th December 2010
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Sampling drums...then mixing them

Just wondering for those of you that chop drums from breaks and layer your own drums. Do you usually EQ and compress the drums in your stash so that they're ready to go mixed before you use them on your beats, or do you use them as is and then mix it after you make the beat?
Old 15th December 2010
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i would never pre-eq/compress them. one thing i've learned over the years is that everything is context-specific. in other words, you might have something that sounds absolutely perfect by itself, but that rarely transfers over to sounding perfect when it's mixed with other sounds. in my opinion it would only be detrimental and generally a huge waste of time to alter your samples before you use them in a track.
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I got my fx´ed samples in a seperate folder heh
cant have enough of them samples
Old 15th December 2010
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one thing i've learned over the years is that everything is context-specific. in other words, you might have something that sounds absolutely perfect by itself, but that rarely transfers over to sounding perfect when it's mixed with other sounds.
That is true, but it also works the other way round, so something that sounds gash by itself/out of context can sound absolutely perfect when mixed with other sounds.

OP I say process and resample drums all the time, whenever, however you feel like it, until they sound like what you imagine. Keep the processed drums you like in a folder. When you are working with loops, or whatever you are into, you can dip into the folder and audition drums in context. Nothing to stop you processing/mixing them additionally after that.

You might find it frustrating if you try to write 'big' drums every time you get to work on an idea.
Old 15th December 2010
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I basically just try to get a sound that inspires me and sparks an idea to lay something down. If that happens with no effects or EQ, then thats where I start, and then I can always add later to fit the song when I have the whole thing down. But sometimes it needs tweaking first to really get inspired by it, for me at least. So, I'd say it depends on the sample, and just trust your ear, if it aint broke don't fix it kind of approach. If its really broke, go back and dig for something else.
Old 16th December 2010
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i would never pre-eq/compress them. one thing i've learned over the years is that everything is context-specific. in other words, you might have something that sounds absolutely perfect by itself, but that rarely transfers over to sounding perfect when it's mixed with other sounds. in my opinion it would only be detrimental and generally a huge waste of time to alter your samples before you use them in a track.
Makes sense..but like someone suggested it probably would be a good idea to do both and keep them in separate folders. Question tho...on all these commercialized drum kits like "Sonic Specialists" or w/e, aren't the drums they create eq'd by engineers before they put the kit out?

edit: btw can anyone recommend me an efficient way to layer drums? I usually layer my drums in a pro tools session and bounce the layered product but I'd rather be able to do this on my PC and not have to go on my mac all the time (for PT)...I guess Adobe Audition? Anything else, a plug that I can use in my DAW (FL Studio) that's efficient for layering?
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yes, sample packs are already eq'd/compressed/etc./etc., it's part of what you're paying for.

as far as layering, any kind of sampler plugin (drum sampler or otherwise) will allow this.
Old 16th December 2010
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Makes sense..but like someone suggested it probably would be a good idea to do both and keep them in separate folders. Question tho...on all these commercialized drum kits like "Sonic Specialists" or w/e, aren't the drums they create eq'd by engineers before they put the kit out?

edit: btw can anyone recommend me an efficient way to layer drums? I usually layer my drums in a pro tools session and bounce the layered product but I'd rather be able to do this on my PC and not have to go on my mac all the time (for PT)...I guess Adobe Audition? Anything else, a plug that I can use in my DAW (FL Studio) that's efficient for layering?
Battery... but you must have some similar tool in FL I beleive (dont know FL very well) layering is a simple as assigning all your layer to the same midi note (if you cant do that just stack your sounds, that's it).
Old 16th December 2010
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btw can anyone recommend me an efficient way to layer drums? I usually layer my drums in a pro tools session and bounce the layered product but I'd rather be able to do this on my PC and not have to go on my mac all the time (for PT)...I guess Adobe Audition? Anything else, a plug that I can use in my DAW (FL Studio) that's efficient for layering?
Use the FPC. It has layering options.
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