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Old 30th March 2010
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When I think about my former vinyl collection that I sold for a very low price to a friend,I just want to scream and pull my hair out.
Only trouble is,I aint got no ****ing hair

I COULD buy some of the stuff back but he sold alot of it and made a decent profit.
But,all the Philly vinyl is still there.
Any of y'all Philly mufukkas wanna help me pull a heist???? for a fee,of course $$$
Old 30th March 2010
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When I think about my former vinyl collection that I sold for a very low price to a friend,I just want to scream and pull my hair out.
Only trouble is,I aint got no ****ing hair

I COULD buy some of the stuff back but he sold alot of it and made a decent profit.
But,all the Philly vinyl is still there.
Any of y'all Philly mufukkas wanna help me pull a heist???? for a fee,of course $$$
Hehe...yep, but I wanna have half of the vinyl heh...I have only 1500 records but I go diggin every weekend, it's my passion. And nothin sounds like vinyl!!! I have some philly stuff too!
Old 31st March 2010
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Old 31st March 2010
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My own, if i ever had enough time to organize it all.

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Old 31st March 2010
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Of course Dre.

I would sell it right after.
Old 31st March 2010
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Nobody really. When it comes to musical samples, that is almost a bigger passion than beat making, I love going record shopping. ****, today I was at E-40's album release and since I was late and couldn't come up top, I had the whole bottom floor to myself, loved it more than what I caught of the show.

When it comes to drums, I got what I need and don't even want more right now.

I wouldn't mind some of these people's mixing and mastering engineers touching my work though. I also wouldn't mind if someone could turn my soft synths into real instruments in real time, that would be the only thing that I would like to be different for me.
Old 31st March 2010
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The public library....

I have too much fun sampling off of all the cd's I check out from the library heh



(preparing to duck bullets from the old schhol heads)
Old 1st April 2010
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if they/we did it would be just a warning shot for giving up a dope secret like that!

for the record, there are no samples to be found in the library cd section. just backstreet boys and zamfir...no disrespect to the latter
Old 1st April 2010
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Old 1st April 2010
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if they/we did it would be just a warning shot for giving up a dope secret like that!

for the record, there are no samples to be found in the library cd section. just backstreet boys and zamfir...no disrespect to the latter
Ive found some great jazz samples in the library cd section. I found some good 80s soul too. You just aint lookin hard enough or the good stuff is checked out. I checked out a bunch of dope music and never brought it back and said F it Ill pay the fine these are mine
Old 1st April 2010
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Polow's library isnt hard to find, most people have it, it comes free with a free program for the mac, called garageband. The factory presets are what he uses! heh
Old 3rd April 2010
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Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis Flyte Tyme technics & samples used.
With nearly 100 Gold & platinum hits, & after about 20 years I'm sure they have accumulated lots of awesome samples.

They had one of the best Bass & drum mixing techs.
Out of the drums, the toms, hat's and snares are the least talked about....unless it's a 808,909 MPC ''of course''.
I like the snare sounds back in the day and wonder, how do you think that some of those sampled sounds where processed.
I always' loved those Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis snare pop signatures samples back in the day when songs where songs.
Maybe a piccolo snare sample, flamed, compressed & high tuned?

JIMMY JAM AND TERRY LEWIS

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov06/articles/stevehodge.htm
Steve Hodge 17 years mixing almost everything that came out of Jam & Lewis's Flyte Tyme Studios
192 tracks sprawled over four Sony 3348 48-track digital tape decks Michael Jackson's 1995 greatest hits album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsg4Wl6MjNg Jam & Terry Lewis. Hear what Mariah Carey, 98* and UK's Cleopa...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKxm2ZeCWLk&feature=related Flyte Tyme: the documentary with Janet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JNpWzTOuj8&feature=related Tender Love " Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis Interview...Real Producer writers.
Other nice mixes from Flyte Tyme.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiH0ke5TFTM&feature=related Janet - Control, Snare pop with verb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gu1KETjVY Janet - The Pleasure Principle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ey5WuxRTU&feature=related Troop Live...they not making them like this today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN1RYACiXNs&feature=related Fake- Alex ...Snare layered with claps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmfKudo0fo&feature=related Alexander O'Neal - Criticize (Original Remix) : Snare + bass poppin.

OK I just added my second producer that I would love to have sampled is the
''LA read - Baby face'' collection.
I always loved the three different syncopated snares in this song.


& blessings.
Old 3rd April 2010
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Old 5th April 2010
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considering ive done custom jobs for more than one name mentioned in this thread -- i'd have to say, my own

if that doesn't count, then definitely dre!
Old 6th April 2010
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As pretty much everyone said, it's a lot better to start making your OWN library and go from there. I did so myself 3 years ago and now got gigs after gigs of samples I collected.

The only problem now, after those few years...is having too much choice when actually getting down to business lol

Anyone got any idea/already using a good digital cataloging system?

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nobody. Your sounds are a big part of your own sound. Its all about the combination of sounds you have and how you use them. Thats why so many cats can have the same gear but sound totally different. Its execution plus your own collection. My record collection is unique to me as is what I sample how I sample and my gear of choice
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I load samples from what I bought or recorded myself into Kontakt. I mostly load all different snares or drums seperatly as an instrument. I then layer that same instrument together, playing different keys simultaneously for the right sound. I then will load a send effect to that sample. I'm conservative on the reverb and will sometimes use Kontakt's bitcrusher on one snare layered with a verb or short delayed snare. I'll then export that one sample about 3 times using 3 different compression settings, mainly as an effect.

When I'm done I'll load 2 rows of cells of snares and 2 rows of cells of kicks and hi hats and so on into Battery. I'll then possibly route out of the box to some hardware and back in. Lately, I've been rerecording snares through my Marshall Amp sometimes clean sometimes using a Fuzz Face.

I only make the Battery libraries about 2 rows of each instrument each. If I need to use a drum instrument from another save, I'll just load it on another track. I can also load my Battery libraries back into Kontakt without changing format if I want to script my set.

All these samples that I make I will have a Folder on a different drive other then the OS. I have it organized as Drums > My Sky Drums folder along with Licensed samples folders > Sky Snares or Sky Kicks ect... I will have the Battery and Kontakt saves under the 'My Sky Drums' folder with folders Battery and Kontakt and those saved instruments name appropriately.
I think you're all getting confused with building your own library of other peoples sounds and creating your own!

I find it funny how you've all just said you'd have no other producers library as you use your own sounds, but then describe how you take sounds or collect them from other spaces...

Building your own library would involve creating sounds from scratch like SonicSpecialists...

If you want Timbo drums there are loads of electronic synths, programming and processing you can use to create that.

If you want more organic feel there are literally thousands of percussive sounds you could record and process yourself with a mic collection and good selection of pres..

A lot of people here seem to want that vinyl feel, and considering building their own library sampling other peoples breaks and chopping them up. Ive got nothing against this kind of music, I love Dilla, Spinna et al but sampling lots of vinyl records is not creating your own sounds as such - certainly not from scratch...

If you were really to create your own library you would have to record these drums through the vintage gear, get them pressed to acetate and sample them yourselves...THAT would be your own unique library with sounds no one else has.

Im not saying I do that, im as guilty as the rest, I used SonicSpecialists fantastic work along with just about every other percussion library I can get my hand on, I prefer to dig out sample libraries specifically not intended for urban or electronic music, and the most bizarre sounds I can find to give some kind of different edge. But I dont claim this to be my old library - its my own massive collection of sounds, but I know Timbaland spends a while crafting sounds that are not stock...

I do spend quite a while recording and sampling percussive sounds and then cutting them and layering them to make unique sounds, but still 90% of my library really is hundreds of thousands (probably in the region of three quarters of a million) of single hits created by other people...so I can't really claim this is my OWN library as such...
Old 6th April 2010
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if u could have one hiphop producers sample library?

obviously this dude https://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-h...s-samples.html ... i just need to find some way of getting them!
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I think you're all getting confused with building your own library of other peoples sounds and creating your own!

I find it funny how you've all just said you'd have no other producers library as you use your own sounds, but then describe how you take sounds or collect them from other spaces...

Building your own library would involve creating sounds from scratch like SonicSpecialists...

If you want Timbo drums there are loads of electronic synths, programming and processing you can use to create that.

If you want more organic feel there are literally thousands of percussive sounds you could record and process yourself with a mic collection and good selection of pres..

A lot of people here seem to want that vinyl feel, and considering building their own library sampling other peoples breaks and chopping them up. Ive got nothing against this kind of music, I love Dilla, Spinna et al but sampling lots of vinyl records is not creating your own sounds as such - certainly not from scratch...

If you were really to create your own library you would have to record these drums through the vintage gear, get them pressed to acetate and sample them yourselves...THAT would be your own unique library with sounds no one else has.

Im not saying I do that, im as guilty as the rest, I used SonicSpecialists fantastic work along with just about every other percussion library I can get my hand on, I prefer to dig out sample libraries specifically not intended for urban or electronic music, and the most bizarre sounds I can find to give some kind of different edge. But I dont claim this to be my old library - its my own massive collection of sounds, but I know Timbaland spends a while crafting sounds that are not stock...

I do spend quite a while recording and sampling percussive sounds and then cutting them and layering them to make unique sounds, but still 90% of my library really is hundreds of thousands (probably in the region of three quarters of a million) of single hits created by other people...so I can't really claim this is my OWN library as such...
a unique library is a library that nobody else has. Even if you have some of the same percussion hits there are still some differences here and there. The coloring of your sampler could change the way a drum loop sounds for you if say you are using fruity loops vs my sampling into my EPS at 12 hz and the next man sampling into his sp1200 yeah they are all the same break but each sample sounds totally different. Not to mention how one truncates their sounds, layering, and any fx one may use on their sounds before or after sampling as well as the mix process. Then take into account that nobody has the same record collection and Im sure we dont all use the same needles and Im sure some of us even have high end preamps to sample with. So I disagree that even if u sample from vinyl and even if we have the same record they sounds will not be 100% the same
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a unique library is a library that nobody else has. Even if you have some of the same percussion hits there are still some differences here and there. The coloring of your sampler could change the way a drum loop sounds for you if say you are using fruity loops vs my sampling into my EPS at 12 hz and the next man sampling into his sp1200 yeah they are all the same break but each sample sounds totally different. Not to mention how one truncates their sounds, layering, and any fx one may use on their sounds before or after sampling as well as the mix process. Then take into account that nobody has the same record collection and Im sure we dont all use the same needles and Im sure some of us even have high end preamps to sample with. So I disagree that even if u sample from vinyl and even if we have the same record they sounds will not be 100% the same
I never said they sound the same, I said they're not YOUR sounds!

If you take your idea, every man and his dog has their own sample library. Every sound that comes with Logic Studio is unique to that person because of their converters

Why dont you stop for a minute and think - how are the sample library guys creating these sounds from scratch. How were these sounds on vinyl im stealing created from scratch...

Sure you can sample from vinyl and warp hell of it, but the hard works been done in the first place. Getting a good kick sound, no matter if its from a kick drum, a synth or your foot stomping on a card board box is the difficult bit, playing around with editing afterwards is the fun and easy bit!

To go from no sound to your own percussive sample is buying your OWN library.

To go from someone elses sounds and change it a bit is just sampling your own library.

Hence why big guys employ people (such as Scirocco) to make unique sounds from scratch for them that no one else has.

I dont consider owning the Urban Fire libraries, along with ModernBeats and hundreds of other packs and hits, along with the stuff ive sampled "my own library" I consider it a large collection of other peoples libraries for my use that ive collated together!
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I never said they sound the same, I said they're not YOUR sounds!

If you take your idea, every man and his dog has their own sample library. Every sound that comes with Logic Studio is unique to that person because of their converters

Why dont you stop for a minute and think - how are the sample library guys creating these sounds from scratch. How were these sounds on vinyl im stealing created from scratch...

Sure you can sample from vinyl and warp hell of it, but the hard works been done in the first place. Getting a good kick sound, no matter if its from a kick drum, a synth or your foot stomping on a card board box is the difficult bit, playing around with editing afterwards is the fun and easy bit!

To go from no sound to your own percussive sample is buying your OWN library.

To go from someone elses sounds and change it a bit is just sampling your own library.

Hence why big guys employ people (such as Scirocco) to make unique sounds from scratch for them that no one else has.

I dont consider owning the Urban Fire libraries, along with ModernBeats and hundreds of other packs and hits, along with the stuff ive sampled "my own library" I consider it a large collection of other peoples libraries for my use that ive collated together!
you sound like a very closed minded individual. How does one own a sound? If I took the same setup in the same studio with the same gear and the same engineer and hit the same drum Id get the same sound. Raw sounds are just clay and clay should be molded into what the artist sees fit. If I make a collage am I not an artist or am I just stealing bits and pieces of other peoples hard work? I do not understand where anti sample talk comes from on a hip hop forum. That's about as backwards as a bunch of monks talking about how good pussy feels.
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you sound like a very closed minded individual. How does one own a sound? If I took the same setup in the same studio with the same gear and the same engineer and hit the same drum Id get the same sound. Raw sounds are just clay and clay should be molded into what the artist sees fit. If I make a collage am I not an artist or am I just stealing bits and pieces of other peoples hard work? I do not understand where anti sample talk comes from on a hip hop forum. That's about as backwards as a bunch of monks talking about how good pussy feels.
Its not anti sample talk, if you read my original post you'd see id love people like Dilla and Spinna who do nothing but sample other records - that fact is your the close minded individual here and you dont understand what im saying.

Theres a different between a collection of sounds and being proud its your own library and creating your own sounds from scratch.

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you sound like a very closed minded individual. How does one own a sound?
Quite easily with contract law, if you sample a snare drum from a record the record label owns the sound.

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If I took the same setup in the same studio with the same gear and the same engineer and hit the same drum Id get the same sound.
And if you did that, you'd own the sound! - I dont how this has turned into a argument about contracts I wasn't being literal in the sense of law, I was stating the hard bit is creating "the clay" from scratch - anyone can take the clay and mould it into "something" (even if the something is terrible) but creating the clay from nothing is a lot more difficult.

I think you'll also see that im not claiming I have done any of this!! Im not bigging myself up so I dont know why you're getting so offended, im stating facts here im not putting you down or anyone else (if anything im bigging up Scirocco and the other sample makers)

Im simply stating that to build your OWN library properly you would need to have created sounds from scratch, this is what many of he big names such as Timbo do (albeit probably not him, himself)

I dont consider much of my own sample library to be my own because its simply a collection of one hits taken from other places. Just because I warp them into my own sound does't particularly make them my own.

Raw sounds may be clay but you can't just steal that clay from your neighbours garden and do what you want with it. You can't illegally download SonicSpecialists stuff and use it without a license, you can't sample snares from vinyl legally. These may be basic sounds but they still have copyright owners and in the case of Scirocco he does all the hard work so you can pay him a fee for his hard work and get on with the fun bit!

Of course i'd love the the money to get Scirocco to build me my OWN custom unique sample library from scratch!
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Its not anti sample talk, if you read my original post you'd see id love people like Dilla and Spinna who do nothing but sample other records - that fact is your the close minded individual here and you dont understand what im saying.

Theres a different between a collection of sounds and being proud its your own library and creating your own sounds from scratch.



Quite easily with contract law, if you sample a snare drum from a record the record label owns the sound.



And if you did that, you'd own the sound! - I dont how this has turned into a argument about contracts I wasn't being literal in the sense of law, I was stating the hard bit is creating "the clay" from scratch - anyone can take the clay and mould it into "something" (even if the something is terrible) but creating the clay from nothing is a lot more difficult.

I think you'll also see that im not claiming I have done any of this!! Im not bigging myself up so I dont know why you're getting so offended, im stating facts here im not putting you down or anyone else (if anything im bigging up Scirocco and the other sample makers)

Im simply stating that to build your OWN library properly you would need to have created sounds from scratch, this is what many of he big names such as Timbo do (albeit probably not him, himself)

I dont consider much of my own sample library to be my own because its simply a collection of one hits taken from other places. Just because I warp them into my own sound does't particularly make them my own.

Raw sounds may be clay but you can't just steal that clay from your neighbours garden and do what you want with it. You can't illegally download SonicSpecialists stuff and use it without a license, you can't sample snares from vinyl legally. These may be basic sounds but they still have copyright owners and in the case of Scirocco he does all the hard work so you can pay him a fee for his hard work and get on with the fun bit!

Of course i'd love the the money to get Scirocco to build me my OWN custom unique sample library from scratch!
you are changing things up lol. The initial post mentioned nothing of building sounds from scratch it said whos library would you want. I still feel you are being closed minded but thats my opinion no emotion here whatsoever. Im not sure what lead you to believe that I felt that way. I simply disagree about sampling a kick from a record being stealing. If it is stealing why has nobody been sued for sampling a high hat or a snare? Im not trying to even take away credit from those who record samples. I hear a lot of great drums kits all over and thats all well and good but whats the difference between your library and your personal collection then? Also I am positive there are guys out there creating their own drums from scratch just as I am sure there are guys out there doing it with the breaks. Neither way is wrong but I refuse to believe that if I take a high hat from some random country song and then use it in an r&b song in a totally different style pitch and layered with 3 other high hats and eq'd to sound totally differnt that I have really stolen anything.
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The initial post mentioned nothing of building sounds from scratch
My initial post did.

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but I refuse to believe that if I take a high hat from some random country song and then use it in an r&b song in a totally different style pitch and layered with 3 other high hats and eq'd to sound totally differnt that I have really stolen anything.
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I simply disagree about sampling a kick from a record being stealing. If it is stealing why has nobody been sued for sampling a high hat or a snare?
You might disagree but unfortunately you are wrong. This wasn't the initial point I made but sampling drums from another record is illegal if you dont get them cleared. That doesn't stop being doing it because the likely hood of getting caught is very limited. But the fact is that recording on the record is still owned by someone else it doesn't matter if you agree with that or not.

And by the way plenty of people have been sued or attempted for lifting drum sounds. Of course its a lot harder to prove a swiped kick drum than it is a vocal melody or string loop though isnt it.

I PERSONALLY dont think its MORALLY wrong to take drums/sounds from someone else record and do your own thing. I haven't sampled for 10 years in its not in my style now, but I used to only sample records back in the day.

But the FACT is, its a lot easier to sample someone elses hi-hat off a record that record and create your own.

At the end of the day its a completely different skill and professional to know how to mic, which pre-amp, get a good sound, record etc drums that is to c*** something up in an MPC - most guys CAN"T record or make their own sounds they just know how to program grooves.

There ARE guys (very very few) going to lengths of recording their own drummer and pressing it to acetate so they can sample their own vinyl sound back...now thats going to some extreme lengths!

With regards to the original original post the question was whos sample library would like to have. Assuming that the big guys have their OWN one hits that we can't sample from someone else or buy from an online retailer then thats whos library I would like.

Lets be honest here Hans Zimmer who was mentioned in the first post does not have a library built up of sample CDs you can buy and stuff pulled off of vinyl, he might have some orchestral sample CDs and tools of the trade to help him compose but over the years he'll have recorded so much of his own stuff THAT will be his unique sample library.
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My initial post did.





You might disagree but unfortunately you are wrong. This wasn't the initial point I made but sampling drums from another record is illegal if you dont get them cleared. That doesn't stop being doing it because the likely hood of getting caught is very limited. But the fact is that recording on the record is still owned by someone else it doesn't matter if you agree with that or not.

And by the way plenty of people have been sued or attempted for lifting drum sounds. Of course its a lot harder to prove a swiped kick drum than it is a vocal melody or string loop though isnt it.

I PERSONALLY dont think its MORALLY wrong to take drums/sounds from someone else record and do your own thing. I haven't sampled for 10 years in its not in my style now, but I used to only sample records back in the day.

But the FACT is, its a lot easier to sample someone elses hi-hat off a record that record and create your own.

At the end of the day its a completely different skill and professional to know how to mic, which pre-amp, get a good sound, record etc drums that is to c*** something up in an MPC - most guys CAN"T record or make their own sounds they just know how to program grooves.

There ARE guys (very very few) going to lengths of recording their own drummer and pressing it to acetate so they can sample their own vinyl sound back...now thats going to some extreme lengths!

With regards to the original original post the question was whos sample library would like to have. Assuming that the big guys have their OWN one hits that we can't sample from someone else or buy from an online retailer then thats whos library I would like.

Lets be honest here Hans Zimmer who was mentioned in the first post does not have a library built up of sample CDs you can buy and stuff pulled off of vinyl, he might have some orchestral sample CDs and tools of the trade to help him compose but over the years he'll have recorded so much of his own stuff THAT will be his unique sample library.
Whos been sued for what songs for taking individual drum hits? Can you name 10 occassions where someones been sued and the plaintiff won? There are plenty of laws that get broken daily that don't hurt anyone including lifting drums. I am not talking about stealing ones ideas I am just using records as a sound source. I don't find that morally wrong one bit but if you do cool it ain't gonna stop me from what I am doing. And you said it yourself that you assumed that everyone started from scratch meaning you didn't say it you just hoped everyone would read your mind. #Nocleo And who is Hans Zimmer? Sounds like a German rapper or something either way its cool what he does but this is what I do. And I used to play drums FTW! Havent played consistently since high school. I would still sample from vinyl if I had a set though I prefer the sound of old recordings especially from the 60s and 70s
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Whos been sued for what songs for taking individual drum hits? Can you name 10 occassions where someones been sued and the plaintiff won?
Not off the top of my head no, but where it can be proven there are many cases where this has happened.

Would you sample the snare drum as easily from Billie Jean as you would this so called hi hat from a country and western song? Because I think that might be quite noticeable but you're doing exactly the same thing.

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There are plenty of laws that get broken daily that don't hurt anyone including lifting drums.
That doesn't make them legally correct.

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I am not talking about stealing ones ideas I am just using records as a sound source. I don't find that morally wrong one bit but if you do cool
How many times do I have to repeat myself, I never said its morally wrong or that I disagree with it. You totally dont understand what im going on about here im talking to a brick wall.

Let me put it this way.

Do you consider my large collection of one hits ive compiled from sample CDs my library?

Because I dont, I considering a compilation of other peoples libraries.

Sure you could go into the same studio, with the same gear and the equipment and try and record the same snare as Billie Jean but you wont do it because your not Bruce Swedien.

What Im saying is and the entire point of this length discussion is.

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And you said it yourself that you assumed that everyone started from scratch meaning you didn't say it you just hoped everyone would read your mind.
WHAT? That doesn't even make sense.

No I didn't say EVERYONE starts from scratch, but if your sampling from someone else SOMEONE started from scratch. Its just someone else did the hard work and then you either took it from a record for yourself or bought a sample library from someone like Zero G, East West, NI, SonicSpecialists, ModernBeats and many others.

This discussion has nothing to do with the art of programming. It was simply whos library would you like to have...

And the simple answer to that in this long debate is

"No ones library who has just sample from records I could sample from, or bought sample CDs ive readily got access to..."

I would like the pillage anyones library who has their OWN sounds though... Questlove for instance as PLENTY of his OWN sounds.

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#Nocleo And who is Hans Zimmer? Sounds like a German rapper or something
This is where this discussion ends for good.

By the way the phrase is narrow minded not close minded and it most certainly applies to you - open your mind and expand your knowledge to everything around you.
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This is where this discussion ends for good.

By the way the phrase is narrow minded not close minded and it most certainly applies to you - open your mind and expand your knowledge to everything around you.
good. now enjoy your film scores
Old 6th April 2010
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Its not anti sample talk, if you read my original post you'd see id love people like Dilla and Spinna who do nothing but sample other records - that fact is your the close minded individual here and you dont understand what im saying.

Theres a different between a collection of sounds and being proud its your own library and creating your own sounds from scratch.



Quite easily with contract law, if you sample a snare drum from a record the record label owns the sound.



And if you did that, you'd own the sound! - I dont how this has turned into a argument about contracts I wasn't being literal in the sense of law, I was stating the hard bit is creating "the clay" from scratch - anyone can take the clay and mould it into "something" (even if the something is terrible) but creating the clay from nothing is a lot more difficult.

I think you'll also see that im not claiming I have done any of this!! Im not bigging myself up so I dont know why you're getting so offended, im stating facts here im not putting you down or anyone else (if anything im bigging up Scirocco and the other sample makers)

Im simply stating that to build your OWN library properly you would need to have created sounds from scratch, this is what many of he big names such as Timbo do (albeit probably not him, himself)

I dont consider much of my own sample library to be my own because its simply a collection of one hits taken from other places. Just because I warp them into my own sound does't particularly make them my own.

Raw sounds may be clay but you can't just steal that clay from your neighbours garden and do what you want with it. You can't illegally download SonicSpecialists stuff and use it without a license, you can't sample snares from vinyl legally. These may be basic sounds but they still have copyright owners and in the case of Scirocco he does all the hard work so you can pay him a fee for his hard work and get on with the fun bit!

Of course i'd love the the money to get Scirocco to build me my OWN custom unique sample library from scratch!
Thanks for the big ups!
Old 6th April 2010
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I already have it. I got J DILLA'S sample library, I also have Dr Dre's heh
Old 2nd May 2010
  #60
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definitely timbaland

I've always though timbaland had some sick beats. U can always distinguish his beats as his own.
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