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Client phrases that youve had enough of....
Old 22nd August 2005
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Client phrases that youve had enough of....

i know theres probably alot out there, so im going to start out and throw these out there. i have to vent because a kid came in the other day and all of his statements were based around these two basic phrases...

"It might take me a couple takes to get this right, I just wrote it this morning."

"Ive got a whole bunch of stock 16's I can throw in anywhere."

"Can you use that effect that [insert favor rapper] uses to make his vocals sound smooth."

First, I dont care when you wrote the track... I just ask that it be well rehearsed and ready to record. I swear some of these guys write blind and just expect to be able to deliver over any production. Ive had enough of that.

The whole "stock 16's" phrase shouldnt exist. It shouldnt be a concept that a serious emcee should be familiar with. For those that dont know... alot of new writers/emcees will write 16 bar verses with no intended beat. They refer to these as "stock 16's" because they believe they will sound good over anything. Ive heard the same person use the same 16 on two different tracks the same day. Ive had enough of that too.

Lastly, it seems like the last thing emcees want to hear is that 99% of the reason [insert favorite rapper] sounds so good is because they are good. No, they dont sound the same in the booth as they do live.

Had to rant!
Old 22nd August 2005
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Old 22nd August 2005
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Not saying it's right but...

Snoop for years have been known to freestyle "off the head" on a whole lot of songs. especially on them guest features he does when he just droppin a "16" or so. I'm sure he ain't the only one.

Many times a rapper would write a verse and while recording not like the feel of it and have something else on tap to replace it with. Most of the rappers I've recorded with such as jadakiss, lloyd banks, fabolous, red cafe, dipset, j-hood, and a few others write to the beat right there in the studio and then do it on the spot. Them guys record and perform alot around the country. They dont have time to llive with a beat and just spend some time gettin it in on the spot.

You gotta have them "stock 16's". You dont know whether u may have to "battle", get some airtime on a radio mixshow, may have to drop a quick freestyle for a mixtape, or just choppin it up backstage. U may run into a label head or manager who may sign u on the spot if u got the goods. Every rapper got an arsenal of stock 16's.
Old 22nd August 2005
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Can't you put an AFFEK on my voice?

How many AFFEKS do you have on my voice?

Turn that $hit up.

How many songs can I do in an hour?

How much does it cost to record a song?

I don't really play, I just make beats.

Make those drums hit harder.

This is my engineer.
Old 22nd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paultools
This is my engineer.
I love this one.... heh

Also...

"I need you to clean my vocals up."

"I want my **** to sound clean."

And any talk about a mic and vocals sounding "crisp"...
Old 22nd August 2005
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"can you just ƒuck that up a bit"
Old 22nd August 2005
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Moore bass - ok, moore bass - ok, moore bass - ehh?
Old 22nd August 2005
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their

"When can I get a copy of that"
........when u pay for it mutha freaka'

"When want this to sound like ya boy song"
..........dude, you are not "yo boy"

"how long is it gonna take"
.........how every long it takes you to say your verses correctly
Old 22nd August 2005
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Old 22nd August 2005
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Old 22nd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlotto
You gotta have them "stock 16's". You dont know whether u may have to "battle" .
Any "emcee" that battles with a written verse should be shot in the face at point blank range with a high-powered assault weapon
Old 22nd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nukmusic
their

"how long is it gonna take"
.........how every long it takes you to say your verses correctly

Sad but ohhh sooo true!!! If i had a dime for everytime I heard that, i'd almost have enuff for that loaded api lunchbox !

rock

sdf
Old 22nd August 2005
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"One more time..."

"One more time..."

"OK, one more time..."

"One more..."
Old 22nd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David R.
"One more time..."

"One more time..."

"OK, one more time..."

"One more..."
LOL! I wish I would have thought of this one. Good Sh$t, right on the money.
Old 22nd August 2005
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"Last time"

folowed by:

"OK, one more time..."

heh
Old 23rd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David R.
"Last time"

folowed by:

"OK, one more time..."

heh

You just have to win, don't you!
Old 23rd August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Brown

The whole "stock 16's" phrase shouldnt exist. It shouldnt be a concept that a serious emcee should be familiar with. For those that dont know... alot of new writers/emcees will write 16 bar verses with no intended beat. They refer to these as "stock 16's" because they believe they will sound good over anything.
Firstly, let me say that I am no hibbedy hop musician, BUT!! I used to be a long time ago.

When I wrote a 8 12 16 20 24 32 whatever bars verse I would usually do it to a specific beat. Sometimes me and some other rappers would drink a WHOLE LOT of beers and do verses on other (newer) beats. Sometimes it would sound horrible, other times it would be freakin' amazing.

A really well written verse WILL sound good on almost any beat, as long as the rapper doesn't stink.
Old 23rd August 2005
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sure, but to WHERE?!?!?!?!?


Old 28th August 2005
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"you can jus slide the vocal and make it sound like it was on time."

which has been replaced by "jus vocal algin it"

then i have clients that think there engineers..

and will be like "yeah the vox jus need some compression 2 give it more life and eq me around where the bass in my voice is at and bring that out some to make me sound big"

and about pre written 16s that is common. almost always in battles..

this is towards the offtopic convo that arose in this thread about spot 16s

my manz j and p and riggs and them thro fight club in ny at dark dimension studios.. and all them ****s people come into battle with is pre written. and when you around 60 peeps and you stuterring looking for words and the man infront of you is jus killing you wit hard punchlines and you there trying 2 freestyle you gonna look like an ass.. ima freestyle person myself love 2 do it used 2 be amazing till i went 2 fukksail and been producing and engineering fulltime.

also its common knowledge nas does this all the time. read the xxl magazine wit ti where they go thru raekwon cuban link album and they all say even nas. went thru 4 different ryhmes he had pre written that he felt would fit the song..

and if someone shot him in the head for doing that on that song we would have lost another classic in the hip hop world
Old 28th August 2005
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My personel favorite is the dude telling me after I am done mixing the song
"Yo dog, youz my [email protected]#$a"
I am a regular white dude, and 50% of the time so were they.
Old 28th August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themucka
my manz j and p and riggs and them thro fight club in ny at dark dimension studios.. and all them ****s people come into battle with is pre written. and when you around 60 peeps and you stuterring looking for words and the man infront of you is jus killing you wit hard punchlines and you there trying 2 freestyle you gonna look like an ass.. ima freestyle person myself love 2 do it used 2 be amazing till i went 2 fukksail and been producing and engineering fulltime.
I know John and them. I put together that studio. Good people!
Old 28th August 2005
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"yo gimme that 50 ****"

"I wanna make some anthem type ****"

"Turn the music up,(when they messup) .......I can't hear myself (like I messed up)........turn my vocals up (like it matters)"

"Turn the Kick up" "Turn the Snare Up!"

"Gimme some more 808"

"Let me add another lead"

"do you have a gunshot sound" "do you have a girl screaming"

"do you still have my song I did last year"

"do you charge for beats"

"can I eat this in here"

"this is my manager pookie"

"this is my producer (oh you got an asr-10, my boy gots the 12!)

"you got an MP?"

"can you mix this tonight?"

"can you take my boy off this CD?"

(at the end of the session, the clients to themselves) "I thought you had 20"

(on the phone) "meet me at the wendy's", in 30 minutes, "I'll be right back"

--------------------

I could go on for days!

BaseJase
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Old 28th August 2005
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DON'T Give me what I asked for ... Give me what I WANT!!!
Old 28th August 2005
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Ok, ready now?

"Wait, we need to blaze a ting" heh
Old 28th August 2005
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can you make it warm and punchy...


......can you put that plugin that makes it sound good


can you turn up down *insert elementof track here* from the back corner of the room...
Old 28th August 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themucka
...till i went 2 fukksail and been producing and engineering fulltime.
Boy, do I know the feeling. That's my new word for them. "Fukksail" heh Classic!
Old 28th August 2005
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