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Old 5th September 2007
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No doubt Rubin is passionate about music and love it!
No doubt he is not the most technical guy!..who cares about that!

But i think he is not Don Was, or Phil Ramone.
and from a commercial point of view he is not Mutt Lange.

I think he is a super talented guy with great love for music, that does his job to sell records ...but I do not believe he is always 100% about music! and that is great!! but I do not buy his 100% music integrity and all his music guru attibutes!
Also he was very lucky lately...well luck is an important factor..and good for him!
Old 6th September 2007
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Blood Sugar Sex Magic is a GREAT album, honestly I have never seen the chili peppers live, and its not high on my "to do" list... Still doesn't take away from the "Greatness" of that album.
I saw them live in...'96 maybe? It was nuts. Though the most memorable part nowadays is probably Anthony spraining his ankle on stage, hobbling off, then coming back with a cane and proceeding to dance around more on one foot.
Old 6th September 2007
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my point was that there are shaky cornerstones in
the myth that is rick rubin - he is not owen bradley

studio trickery is why there is so little music that matters
in the past twenty years - it is the very reason the article
was written and rick rubin was hired - the irony is that def jam
and rap music as a medium killed the great legacy that was african-
american music for the past two hundred years - it made clothing
more important than woodshedding, practicing, playing or really being
a great musician - this generation of african-americans dropped the
ball - rap - mtv and midi created a world that has not produced an aretha
franklin or an etta james or a ketty lester or a marvin gaye or a leon ware
or a stevie wonder - god forbid a donny hathaway or a nina simone
- or a duke ellington -

it did not create a generation of kids interested in playing music

i have a feeling i have not heard the best that rap had to offer and
i still believe rap's best days may lie ahead

as a caucasian man, perhaps it is not politically correct for me to say, but
our african-american brothers were for most of the last century the best
musicians the world has ever seen.....
to me, it is tragic that something so amazing is gone
put on james brown's "love power peace - live in paris 1972" listen to the
jb's - no one plays like that now. an amazing benchmark to hold up
to anyone anywhere anytime in terms of musicianship - people working hard to play
great. important also in that it is live - no studio trickery- no one plays like that now. why ? maybe prince. no one else.
why? why did that ambition go away ?


people
are starving for that - no one needs studio trickery - studio trickery i believe
is hip if you are john lennon or paul mccartney or jeff buckley or rufus wainwright
or little jimmy scott or marvin gaye -
if you are extending and playing with a god given gift.....

if there is simply nothing there, you are involved with fraud :


i still believe 99% of the most amazing recordings are just recordings - documents
of someone opening themselves up

it is interesting that mr. rubin has found himself around so many differnt kinds
of music and i do believe he really likes music. i do think he will help columbia
i think it is wise that they leave that building. i think they should fire almost
everyone - firstly all of the scary psychophantic attorneys at grubman-indursky
who pretend to be interested in music and have participated in creating a non-expansive fear
culture - while being the music industry's most consumptive parasite......



i hope i did not offend anyone
that is not my wish
i love music
i love to love music
more than anything
else


be well


- jack
There's alot of truth in this post. But, it's beautifully SHORTSIGHTED as well.

Jack, I'll go on a limb and say I agree with you. Musically Rubin hasn't touched ANYTHING that matches the greatness of prior era African American Music.

We do not have the equivalent of a Sam Cooke, Stevie or an Aretha or D Hathaway or the genius of Nina Simone.

But do you fault Deff Jam and rap for all of that?

I think there are plenty of cultural changes that occured that helped to spur that change BEFORE rap was as strong as it grew to.

I grew up on rap. I also grew up in the era when there was no money in music programs in inner city schools. I grew up in an era where there was no Malcolm or Martin and one where there were plenty of "people who lead blacks" but not many of "black leaders."

I grew up in the era of the Sharpton/Jackson instead of that of the Huey Newton, Bobby Seale.

And if you want to know the truth earlier generations failed to carry and pass the torch to younger generations musically.

So perhaps it's a bit unfair to blame that younger generation for what it came up with on its own not being as good as the music that had been passed down for centuries before.

It's shortsighted at best and it does not consider the FAILURE of the previous generation/era.

Last I checked, Disco had a pretty big fad era that came and went.
(Is that to be blamed on Deff Jam as well?)

You are right, the best rap record has not been made yet.
Old 6th September 2007
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Did you guys ever think, what did Rick used on early Def Jam era to create a beat?
Maybe SP1200, or Akai Sseries..you think?
Old 6th September 2007
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Did you guys ever think, what did Rick used on early Def Jam era to create a beat?
Maybe SP1200, or Akai Sseries..you think?
LOL you can't be serious.
Old 6th September 2007
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dude..

Why what's wrong?
Im just sayin'

Dude made tons of hits from a dorm room in mid 80s,
using what?
Crazy huh?

I know He mixed alot of his stuffs at Chunking Studio, New York, back in the day.
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Why what's wrong?
Im just sayin'

Dude made tons of hits from a dorm room in mid 80s,
using what?
Crazy huh?

I know He mixed alot of his stuffs at Chunking Studio, New York, back in the day.
There was no sp1200, S1000 till 87-88

I just found it strange that in a post about musicianship/studio trickery, your question was "What machine did he use"

But hey, this is Gearslutz.
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