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IS THERE ANY NEWS ON ACID PRO 7.0? DAW Software
Old 24th August 2007
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IS THERE ANY NEWS ON ACID PRO 7.0?

they need to make the record quantize like reason fast and easy because quantizing in 6.0 is a hassle how can some one actuallly create with these stupid bugs?
Old 25th August 2007
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I just did a whole album in Acid Pro 6...

I know there's no auto quantize for midi recording like in an typical MPC/drum machine way, but is it really that important?

Just record the best you can, on playback highlight the parts that are really sloppy, right click and select quantize.

Of course sloppy hi-hats are a big part of the Dilla/Detroit sound.
Old 27th August 2007
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its time consuming,cubase,pro tools,sonar, and reason all have the feature
Old 28th August 2007
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It's not that time consuming. I personally like to hear what I've recorded before I quantize. Stuff like steady 8th notes or whatever I can just draw in quickly.

BUT...

Just for you i'll go back, RTFM, and figure out how to record quantize.

Okay, here you go:

Highlight a midi track - right click - select properties - inside the track properties box select quantize in the input filters tab - DONE

There it is, now go send the guys in Madison some money.
Old 28th August 2007
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I never auto quantize..I don't see why you would want to do that.
Old 28th August 2007
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dont bother with acid

unless you want to arrange some one elses creativity. get reason, or fruityloops for cryin out loud, just dont get acid. unless your not creative


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Old 29th August 2007
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unless you want to arrange some one elses creativity. get reason, or fruityloops for cryin out loud, just dont get acid. unless your not creative


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The Grey Album was done in Acid and that is one of the most creative rap records I have heard.
Old 29th August 2007
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unless you want to arrange some one elses creativity. get reason, or fruityloops for cryin out loud, just dont get acid. unless your not creative


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i am completely missing how you would need to arrange someone elses creativity. Who really uses the loops that come with Acid? It is a midi sequencer and supports rewire and vsti. I must have missed something somewhere
Old 29th August 2007
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I do everything in Acid. I started with Cubase, moved to pro tools and then moved to acid. I wont be moving from Acid anytime soon.

I've never used an Acid loop in my life...
Old 29th August 2007
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i dont believe you

who would go from a powerful program like pro tools to a 60 dollar program that you can get at best buy. just not realistic .. its like saying" i started racing nascar with a pro car but then i went to a escort and then switched to a gocart" just not very reasonable. but i am not knocking you. if the tools in protools are too advanced then grab a copy of acid at 16 bit 44.1 its a great way to start from scratch
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Old 29th August 2007
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who would go from a powerful program like pro tools to a 60 dollar program that you can get at best buy. just not realistic ..
I don't think he ever said he was leaving PT. And to be honest, if you make hot track on a Nintendo WII,does it matter how they got put down? No. It does not.
Old 29th August 2007
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you right

but the math that was put into acid is not as accurate as pro tools or sonar. that my friend is a fact. the converters are horrible that is a fact so if tyou took a finished project from sonar to a mastering lab and one from acid. sonicly they will come out different its like the difference between amature sounding and pro sounding , acid just does not provide that. now if a idea is dope then its dope. i am not knocking the creative process that might be applyed to a program but its 60 dollars at best buy . its that cheap for a reason, you get what you pay for
Old 29th August 2007
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but the math that was put into acid is not as accurate as pro tools or sonar. that my friend is a fact. the converters are horrible that is a fact so if tyou took a finished project from sonar to a mastering lab and one from acid. sonicly they will come out different its like the difference between amature sounding and pro sounding , acid just does not provide that. now if a idea is dope then its dope. i am not knocking the creative process that might be applyed to a program but its 60 dollars at best buy . its that cheap for a reason, you get what you pay for
Dude Acid Pro is not 60 bucks at best buy, Sony actually makes several versions of the product and the one I think you are refering to is Acid Music.
And I didn't know that audio sequencers have "converters" ??Are you maybe refering to the mix engine algorithm?..

I'll give you a break since you from Kansas City, and you might not have access to current information.

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Acid Pro 6 isn't as expensive as many sequencers, but who wants to pay more for their sequencer? And yes Acid supports 24bit/192k and 5.1 surround.

I eventually gave it up for Logic when I moved to my Intel Mac, but its a much more powerful tool than people give it credit. I've noticed a tiny difference in audio quality since I made the switch but its pretty negligable. Your A/D D/A makes a much bigger difference. However I haven't been able to use any of the new sequencers featuring 64 bit mixing engines, so maybe that will change my tune.
Old 29th August 2007
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"There it is, now go send the guys in Madison some money"

Haha, nice. I remember when they were Sonic Foundry, and Logic was owned by Emagic. Ahh the memories
Old 29th August 2007
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but the math that was put into acid is not as accurate as pro tools or sonar. that my friend is a fact. the converters are horrible that is a fact so if tyou took a finished project from sonar to a mastering lab and one from acid. sonicly they will come out different its like the difference between amature sounding and pro sounding , acid just does not provide that. now if a idea is dope then its dope. i am not knocking the creative process that might be applyed to a program but its 60 dollars at best buy . its that cheap for a reason, you get what you pay for
from your post i can see that you've never heard of acid pro which lists at $399.95 but you can get it at most places for around 299.95
Old 29th August 2007
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I don't think he ever said he was leaving PT. And to be honest, if you make hot track on a Nintendo WII,does it matter how they got put down? No. It does not.
co-sign...not to start a huge argument, but this is why all the new cats out think they "need" pro-tools. "it's the most expensive software, it must be good!" "it has 'pro' in the name!"
Old 29th August 2007
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but the math that was put into acid is not as accurate as pro tools or sonar. that my friend is a fact. the converters are horrible that is a fact so if tyou took a finished project from sonar to a mastering lab and one from acid. sonicly they will come out different its like the difference between amature sounding and pro sounding , acid just does not provide that. now if a idea is dope then its dope. i am not knocking the creative process that might be applyed to a program but its 60 dollars at best buy . its that cheap for a reason, you get what you pay for
Wow, I had no idea.
Old 29th August 2007
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sonic foundary...

Great plug in for multitap delay. gets alot of mileage
dude it all boils down to taste. i meant converters cause i assumed you were recording in the same program you creats synth beats with. i mean , in school the teach you to have it all up on one screen or multiple screen but in the same program so you can profesionaly mix the beat and the vocals at the same time. many techniques revolve around that concept. acid is horrable for vocal recording. just defeats the purpose
the creative flow is slowed down and 300 is basicaly 60 in the recording world. either a program is good or not. there is not a inbetween....in my opinion
Old 30th August 2007
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did they teach you what convertors were in school?
Old 30th August 2007
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who would go from a powerful program like pro tools to a 60 dollar program that you can get at best buy. just not realistic .. its like saying" i started racing nascar with a pro car but then i went to a escort and then switched to a gocart" just not very reasonable. but i am not knocking you. if the tools in protools are too advanced then grab a copy of acid at 16 bit 44.1 its a great way to start from scratch
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the $60 version will get the job done but who in the hell uses it. Again ignorance

Buy Sony ACID Pro 6 Multitrack Recording Software online at Musician's Friend

Sony Creative Software - ACID Pro 6

take a nice long read. Acid is more than just a loop player lol.
Old 30th August 2007
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Great plug in for multitap delay. gets alot of mileage
dude it all boils down to taste. i meant converters cause i assumed you were recording in the same program you creats synth beats with. i mean , in school the teach you to have it all up on one screen or multiple screen but in the same program so you can profesionaly mix the beat and the vocals at the same time. many techniques revolve around that concept. acid is horrable for vocal recording. just defeats the purpose
the creative flow is slowed down and 300 is basicaly 60 in the recording world. either a program is good or not. there is not a inbetween....in my opinion
bull**** lol. You clearly don't know anything about the program but you are passing off these opinions as facts. Acid Pro is not the same as Acid Music or Xpress. I use a $99 version of Sonar that doesn't make Pro Tools LE any better than what I have now lol. If you are using all the same gear on the same computer and recording the exact same sample at the same bit and sample rates its going to sound pretty much the same.
Old 30th August 2007
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did they teach you what convertors were in school?
heh


oh man thats funny ****

Honestly this forum has been going down hill, we need to crack the whip and get everybody back on track what was that guy talking about?
Old 30th August 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Methlab
did they teach you what convertors were in school?


lol ether


Anyway, I wasn’t knocking PT or Sonar or any other software. What I’m saying is that you CANNOT discount Acid Pro as a capable DAW solution. When you really break it down to the barest minerals (excluding add on hardware such as accel cards and such) they all do the same exact ****, the buttons and menus are just arranged differently lol. I’ve used em all and what it comes down to is Acid is the most comfortable to use. Given the chance I would add a thousand things to it to make it better but for me, even without the things I think are missing that other software may have, I still feel comfortable working in Acid.

IMHO If you were to take a project from Acid, Sonar, Cubase, PT, Reaper, Logic or any other software you can think of, that were all recorded using the same hardware and mixed by the same ears to the same mastering house to be mastered by the same person I believe that any differences would be impossible to detect.


Old 30th August 2007
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I agree man. I remember when I started out really learning to produce, I befriended a very successful producer who was into my band at the time. I told him that I was using Acid (it was probably like 2.0 at the time), and he was like "man, i love that program..you should keep using it!!". He was a PT HD guy, but he was very eccentric and had amazing ears. He said he could make a record in ACID no problem, and I believed it. Still do. I have moved onto Cubase since, but simply because my workflow demands changed. I still open up old Acid projects and mix in there and export there with no issues.
Old 30th August 2007
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I like acid......whats the big deal Man????????



Old 30th August 2007
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Without turning this into a full fledged pissing contest, let me state that Acid Pro 6 is a full fledged DAW on par with anything else out there.

BTW-Dangermouse still uses Acid and a off-the-shelf PC.

What's more creative than the Gnarles Barkley album?

It's important to remember that these programs are just tools and so much more powerful compared to the stuff that 99% of any classic records were made on...

So if you feel like an app isn't creative by nature it isn't the software it's your ears.

I've used nearly every sequencer, hardware or software, going back to my old Atari ST.

It says something when I get more stuff done quicker and easier with Acid Pro.
Old 30th August 2007
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Right. I think it also has to be taken into account that back in the late 90's when this stuff was really just starting to bubble there weren't as many software choices out there like there is now so you really only had a few choices and they all weren't that powerful or without bugs. So when you found one that worked with your hardware and felt comfortable you stuck with it and now almost a decade later even though there is a slew of new products to choose from and we may choose to try them out it will always be a lot quicker to get the results we want by sticking with what we are used to simply because we know every nook and cranny of the interface.


That being said, Sonar looks awesome and I have every intention of giving it a spin.
Old 1st September 2007
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acid is for amatures

you cant deni that. so keep beating a dead horse and when you get sick uf reloading all you midi files to adjust a snare or kick then re rendering it only to load it back into your daw to record. Dont ask me where your creativity went. it was lost in the work flow of a cheap loop organizer.


but ultimatly work speaks for its self right. check the site
Old 1st September 2007
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Acid Pro 7 is probably under devellopement. It takes more time than expected as it will be Windows Vista ready. I'll keep you guys up if I'm allowed to by the team !

BTW Quantizing in acid pro can be done with midi filters (right clic on the midi content, select midi filters). Or with the Groove Quantize tool.
Old 2nd September 2007
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Yes, Acid 7 is being developed as we speak although it's a bit far off or so I hear...(hint, hint).
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