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Compressing before controlling Proximity effect or after?
Old 18th November 2019
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Compressing before controlling Proximity effect or after?

I track close mic'd vocals without EQ or compression, and I usually reduce the proximity effect first (transparent EQs) and then control dynamics afterwards ITB. but I'd like to know what would be the old school approach in this regard because back in the day you had to track with compression just to get it right for the tape, but did you fix the proximity before the compression or after in the analog world in the tracking stage? Or was the proximity effect handled in the mixing stage?

Just curious.
Old 18th November 2019
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To fix the proximity effect, i would tell the vocalist to get a little closer or a little further away form the mic. I would not try and fix ti with EQ.

That's just me. I like things to be as easy for me as possible, so i will coach the singer and have him or her in the right position form the mic to record the best sound for that song.
Old 19th November 2019
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A little further from the mic helps but introduces early reflections that I don't want. I like to add ER later on with algorithmic reverbs. I'm very meticulous about the space texture I introduce on dry sounds
Old 19th November 2019
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My "rule of thumb" for this has always been to apply "curative", "correctional" or "remedial" actions BEFORE any "sweetening" or "polishing" actions.

In other words: "fix problems" first, and only then start with the "color" (or whatnot).

...No matter what "devices" I'm applying!
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Old 22nd November 2019
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A little further from the mic helps but introduces early reflections that I don't want. I like to add ER later on with algorithmic reverbs. I'm very meticulous about the space texture I introduce on dry sounds
To fix that, you need to find a better recording position for the mic and the person singing in that room and/or get more isolation/acoustical treatment.

Last edited by CJ Mastering; 23rd November 2019 at 01:48 PM..
Old 23rd November 2019
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I personally would never want to record vocals backed off the mic unless I wanted "that" sound. Easy to add room/reflection to a dry upfront vocal. Not easy to remove room/er from an off-axis, or just a bit too far away.
Old 23rd November 2019
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I personally would never want to record vocals backed off the mic unless I wanted "that" sound. Easy to add room/reflection to a dry upfront vocal. Not easy to remove room/er from an off-axis, or just a bit too far away.
Agree.

Do you know of any good sounding broad stroke hardware EQ for tracking vocals? something clean sounding, under 2k?
Old 23rd November 2019
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Agree.

Do you know of any good sounding broad stroke hardware EQ for tracking vocals? something clean sounding, under 2k?
I personally use the 1073LB into the Avalon 737 which would put you over the 2K, but you can pick up a used 737 for about 1500, and just use the built-in pre
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