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Old 19th September 2019
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How many of you guys have owned a keyboard workstation?

How many of you guys have owned a keyboard workstation?

1. Which one did you own?

2. How much did it cost?

3. Did you like it?

4. Do you still use it or have you sold it?

5. If you sold it... how much did you get for it?


I had Yamaha Motif ES6. It cost me $1,999.00. I remember before I bought it a couple other producers told me that the sequencer on the Motif ES was pain in the *ss and very hard to figure out. But I said f*ck it and bought one anyway. So... I get the Motif to the studio and... Man... the sequencer was easy as hell to work. It took me like 4 minutes to figure it out. I don't know why the Motif ES sequencer had a reputation for being so hard to figure out.

Anyway... the Motif ES was dope. It had dope sounds... a easy to use sequencer... the sampler was cool... and to this day I still haven't found a keyboard midi controller that has keys that feel as good as the Motif ES. I made a lot of dope songs on the Motif ES and the MPC 1000.

But then Native Instruments released the Maschine... which I bought because the pads on my MPC 1000 had stopped working and then I bought Native Instruments Komplete and from that point on all my music was made in the computer. I would still use the Motif ES for piano practice every now and then but overall I barely touched it. But for some reason I didn't really want to sell it.

So... years after never touching the Motif ES I finally broke down and sold it for a little under half of what I bought it for... $875.

Now looking back... I regret selling the Motif ES.


Answers to the questions.

1. Motif ES

2. $1,999

3. I liked it.

4. I sold it

5. $875






Who else has owned a Keyboard workstation?

Last edited by ASICE; 20th September 2019 at 03:29 AM..
Old 20th September 2019
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1. No but a friend of mind had the Korg M1

2. don't know

3. Yes and no. It was fun to play play around with it but at that time I wasn't ready for it and I was more into sampling (and I still like sampling more). I also was used to the capabilities of Atari Cubase so the sequencer of the M1 was like WTF

IF I would have some money to spend I would love to buy the ASR10 or even the EPS16plus

peace
Old 20th September 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ASICE View Post
How many of you guys have owned a keyboard workstation?

1. Which one did you own?

2. How much did it cost?

3. Did you like it?

4. Do you still use it or have you sold it?

5. If you sold it... how much did you get for it?
1. Ensoniq SD1
2. $350 used in 1991 (total steal!)
3. LOVED it. Still do.
4. Still use it.
5. n/a
Old 20th September 2019
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Originally Posted by chris carter View Post
1. Ensoniq SD1
2. $350 used in 1991 (total steal!)
3. LOVED it. Still do.
4. Still use it.
5. n/a
Damn.... you go it for $350 in 1991? Retail price was $1,999 when it was released in 1990! Was anything wrong with it when you bought it?

Ensoniq SD1
Old 20th September 2019
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Damn.... you go it for $350 in 1991? Retail price was $1,999 when it was released in 1990! Was anything wrong with it when you bought it?

Ensoniq SD1
Now that I think about it, it was 1992. I had gone to a pro audio store looking for a keyboard, but I couldn't afford anything they had. The sales manager showed me a sales list from another company out of state and pointed to the SD1 and told me to call that place and buy that one. I called a friend who was familiar with keyboards and he said, "does it work? If it does, just buy it. If you don't like it you can easily sell it for more than that." So I did. Best decision ever. It was in great shape, a couple scratches is all. Even had the manual and the factory floppies
Old 20th September 2019
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Owned an EPS16+, ASR10, MOTIF ES6, MPC2500(DRUM MACHINE/SEQUENCER). I liked them all and still have the Motif and ASR10 but I use software sequencers now-a-days.
Can't remember the purchase and/or selling prices.
Old 20th September 2019
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I sell more preamps and other things vs music related instruments, i dont sell those. i still have my triton, proteus, alesis , hell i even have my novtion nova. Always nice to turn em on and just go thru and listen.
Old 20th September 2019
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I have had so many different workstations. Right now I have the Montage, Kronos, and Forte. But only because I gig... They all have different plusses and minuses but really the bottom line is the sounds. And eventually they all get old in that regard. I feel like nowadays the only real reason to have a workstation is for gigging. Unless you really love the keys in which case you can use it for a controller (since all the controller keyboards currently on the market suck keys-wise). I'm pretty much gonna keep a workstation in my possession for that one reason alone.

@ ASICE if you liked the keys in your Motif ES, that's the Yamaha FS keybed. They have been using those keys in all of their top-end keyboards since the DX7 up to the present day in the Montage. Also Korg used them in their top-end boards starting with the M1, all the way up to the OASYS 76. So there's a whole bunch of keyboards out there with those same keys, and some of them you can find relatively cheap like the Korg IS30 or the Yamaha W5. The only keys I like better are the ones in the ASR-10 (which is Fatar TP/8).
Old 21st September 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ASICE View Post
How many of you guys have owned a keyboard workstation?

1. Which one did you own?

2. How much did it cost?

3. Did you like it?

4. Do you still use it or have you sold it?

5. If you sold it... how much did you get for it?...

Who else has owned a Keyboard workstation?...
1. Korg Triton LE 88
2. Bought used in 2005 for $650
3. Yes
4. Still use it everyday
5. ...
Old 21st September 2019
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Owned the Kronos, Motif, Fantom , Jupiter 80 and a bunch of other keys.

Would i own them again. No!

Next purchase.

Yamaha Genos.

Why ?

I am a keys player but an arranger is a quicker way to a backing track and to work out a vocal
than anything out there and in any genre you wish.

The sounds coming out of these arrangers these days is quite good.

My 2 cents and YMMV.

Cheers
Old 21st September 2019
  #11
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Back in the day I had (15-20 something years ago)

M1 - hated it, very limited (I wanted it to be a 01/W)
Roland RS5 - pretty good but overall felt a bit budgety with surprisingly good sounds for what it was, impressed by the sound preview button.
Triton LE - loved it! Tons of cool sounds and good feeling keyboard and pitch stick.

I used them mostly for practice and gigs at that point. Now Im more of a bedroom producer.
All of this was before I learned synths "for real". Now I have a Roland midi keyboard , Prophet 12 & a collection of soft synths.
Old 22nd September 2019
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Korg oasys
Korg m50 and m3
Roland fantom x6 and fa
Yamaha motif xs
Kurzweill pcx
Xp50

I loved it and I been moved on from them and all itb now. Mainly, because in the box producing is much faster and everything syncs better with my work flow. I still leave all them but they are collecting dust. Put up in storage.

Now flipping through some and hitting record and putting down ideas was faster, but then came the recording everything into the daw. Or syncing them up to use the sounds from other workstations just was a hastle.
Old 22nd September 2019
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Yikes.

I have never owned a "keyboard workstation". Well exempt for the thing my dad bought me when I was 14...

Wayaayyy too limiting. When I was starting off I bought a good sampler, a good analog synth and a good digital synth.

And a Macintosh Classic to run Cubase.....
Old 23rd September 2019
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Korg m3

Traded it for a trident summing desk, and some rack fx as I was working more in the box and engineering.

Now I have a modx which is basically a workstation as of this coming Tuesday with OS 2.0 coming out, minus sampling.

Love it. Who knows how long I’ll have it.
Old 23rd September 2019
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Presuming gals can weigh in, too? I’ve owned several keyboards that I would consider to be workstations of one description or another.

Ensoniq EPS
I bought this one new shortly after release, replacing an original Emu Emax. What it lacked in warmth and character it made up for in polyphony and multi-timbrality, which was essential given where I was in learning the basics. I quite liked the sequencer and have fond memories of the instrument and the expressive poly aftertouch keyboard. I technically still own it but have it out on semi-permanent loan to a friend in another state.

Kurzweil K2000 and Successors
Would it suffice to say I replaced it with a K2500XS? Added various ROM expansions, RAM, external SCSI storage, and then KDFX when I had the chance? And replaced that with a Kurzweil Forte when it became clear that it wasn’t going to last forever? It’s hard to imagine not having a Kurzweil around at this point, serving as everything from idea scratchpad to master controller, to an almost endlessly flexible digital synth engine with killer effects.

In all cases, I paid a small discount under list as I bought them all new. I loved them all, and only got a decent amount for the K2000. So many years had passed when I sold the K2500XS that it was only worth a few hundred. Hopefully someone is loving it as much now as I always did.
Old 23rd September 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nukmusic View Post
Owned an EPS16+, ASR10, MOTIF ES6, MPC2500(DRUM MACHINE/SEQUENCER). I liked them all and still have the Motif and ASR10 but I use software sequencers now-a-days.
Can't remember the purchase and/or selling prices.
I never got a chance to use the ASR-10... Year Released: 1992. Retail Street Price: $1,999.




Boom Bap Heroes Vol.1: ASR-10

Old 23rd September 2019
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Originally Posted by mp3 View Post

@ ASICE if you liked the keys in your Motif ES, that's the Yamaha FS keybed. They have been using those keys in all of their top-end keyboards since the DX7 up to the present day in the Montage. Also Korg used them in their top-end boards starting with the M1, all the way up to the OASYS 76. So there's a whole bunch of keyboards out there with those same keys, and some of them you can find relatively cheap like the Korg IS30 or the Yamaha W5. The only keys I like better are the ones in the ASR-10 (which is Fatar TP/8).
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.
Old 9th November 2019
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i started on an ASR 10. still love it! it had a very unique sound very big sounding very punchy and those filters! honestly that thing is a beast most people i know only use 5% of its potential. sometimes i think about midi syncing my rack up again like we use the s950 combo with the sp1200 but im so over floppy disks
Old 9th November 2019
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Roland XP-60. Bought it many many moons ago. The sound that comes out of this thing is nothing short of amazing, even by today's standards. I don't plan on ever parting with it... still have it and use it to this day. Currently, it's MIDI'd up to my MPC 1000. The MPC and the XP are like a tag team for production.
Old 4 weeks ago
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Workstations used to be where it's at. I remember upgrading to an 01/w after our 6 track, non looping Casio. Definite game changer. Then came the Trinity, Triton, and Motif. They still have good sounds but they've been used all over everything for the past 20 years. The one things I miss now that I only use VI's is the ability to audition sounds instantly. Loading up a good string sound in the EXS or Kontakt takes a second or more even with an SSD.
Old 4 weeks ago
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Workstations used to be where it's at. I remember upgrading to an 01/w after our 6 track, non looping Casio. Definite game changer. Then came the Trinity, Triton, and Motif. They still have good sounds but they've been used all over everything for the past 20 years. The one things I miss now that I only use VI's is the ability to audition sounds instantly. Loading up a good string sound in the EXS or Kontakt takes a second or more even with an SSD.
Not taking in account power on the computer, start DAW, add track, launch plugin, select sound :D
Old 4 weeks ago
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This is the boot time/loading time argument in a nutshell:

By the time you get in your car, start it, warm it up, back out of your drive way, and wave goodbye to your wife, I've already gone a quarter mile on my bike...
Old 4 weeks ago
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I owned a Korg Triton and I loved that thing. Can't remember how much it was. I've considered buying another because i love the sounds in the triton
Old 4 weeks ago
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Korg M1 new paid ~ 1599 IIRC. Used it alot. Still have it but doesn't get much use, though the M1 sequencer has a bunch of patterns in it still that i pull out on occasion. I have the Korg software collection for all the sounds on computer, but i still love the iconic M1 piano patch. Does not sound like anything else.
Old 4 weeks ago
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so I bought the the original motif6 when I was 20 years old in sep 2002 not too long after it came out, loved it! starts up in about 9 seconds, not like the Korg Kronos I sometimes use, anyways back to the motif. I remember my friend had the triton and I felt the motif had the upper hand, the sampler on it was amazing and sounds were good too, but triton did have some good sounds. I ended up selling my motif in 2004 for a $1000 to two friends who split it $500 a piece, not because I didn't want it, but because I started selling coke and eventually I started using a lot more than I was selling, and then slowly would start losing everything and became a complete wreck for the next 10 years, (eventually just jumping to crystal and becoming a huge tweaker). Here's a song that was made around that time where I only used the sampler on the motif to make the beat, I'm using a gamer computer with cubase sx 2.0 as my DAW and just dumping the audio from the motif that way, no midi except to sync audio, my friend plays the bass all the way through and I use a little tube preamp($100 behringer pre I believe) for the bass and also vocals, an echo gina interface, and as you can see I only have one verse done and never got around to finishing the song as my drug priorities were taking hold, I did master it then and it was spot on, unfortunately the only files I was able to track down were the pre masters as I hesitate to call them mix-downs because there really was no mixing down except for some vocal treatment(eq compression reverb) haha, I was 21 and really had no idea of how to do mix downs other than levels and what not. But everything sounded amazing too me coming off the motif, notice how the sampler + filter on the motif cause this amazing waterfall type sound and the saturation is gorgeous(btw I'm kind of playing the sample and not just looping it), its very hard to recreate this ITB with tons of plug-ins let alone dry, its all through the song but listen at

1:05-1:15 and 2:22 to end, sounds like the sample is on on a skillet

1:16-1:26. sounds like the sample is coming out of a waterfall



the original master was better and this was just ran through izotope in 2017 with a couple of tweaks on a preset on the fly, I should master it properly as my mastering skills are currently much better and using a killer formula

I ended up getting clean in aug 2014 and was able to build up some scratch to buy a studio in 2016 and have been building since, needless to say I could not recreate the results/level of depth and saturation I was getting with the motif for my samples and ended up buying one again in 2018 for $799 and a $100 shipping off reverb, and although I do use the motif from time and time I haven't been using sampling as much in my workflows I have so much to work with and getting better at composing but if I do I sometimes will run therm through the motif but sometimes not. Just want to say the drum kits on it are sweet and everything else also sound wise on the motif but again I have so much to work with that I'm not always going there.

I also bought a Korg Kronos last year, learning it and setting it up with my rig was much more work than the motif, and it does take a little time to start up, but I do like it, the sounds and it's sound engine, its effects are also top notch, whenever I help the person I got it for do shows we run everything through it and out to the front of the house and it sounds amazing, so Ableton with the instrumental tracks running usb out to in on Kronos, Mic going into input 1, and guitar into input 2, and then left and right out to front of the house, we mix everything down on the Kronos ourselves. Just recently this person had a 30 minute set(at a spot we had already done with the Kronos), so we decided not to bring the Kronos and left the sound people to handle it, the results were weak!, I couldn't believe how lack luster things sounded, I tried to sit there with the sound guy and get it dialed in but you know how that goes, I'm not saying this happens all the time or with better live sound setups and engineers, i just know that we rehearse we get everything dialed and it sounds so lovely coming out of the Kronos we try not to leave to much chance when we get to soundcheck and just hand the sound people a left and right
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