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K-Def crazy instruments isolation
Old 3rd September 2016
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K-Def crazy instruments isolation

I stumbled upon K-Def's instagram page and saw these videos.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI45b7bD...aken-by=djkdef

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI5Xsj4D...aken-by=djkdef

https://www.instagram.com/p/BI7qZMNj...aken-by=djkdef

How is he doin' that? It sounds nearly perfect.
Old 4th September 2016
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Ive talked to K about it; he says he'd love to present his technique to some company – probably to take it further. Ninja stuff.
Old 4th September 2016
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Ive talked to K about it; he says he'd love to present his technique to some company – probably to take it further. Ninja stuff.

It's dope but is he better then cleanin tools that already been on the market. It sounds so unreal but so great! If there is a plugin on the rise it will be expensive.
Old 6th September 2016
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Wow! I know a lot of samplers have been waiting for something like this.

Not knowing how to do this is one of several reasons I never got into sampling.
Old 6th September 2016
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interesting, but i'm pretty sure this is based on m/s subtraction, you won't have full control over the results, so i wouldn't call this actual instrument isolation.
Old 6th September 2016
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interesting, but i'm pretty sure this is based on m/s subtraction, you won't have full control over the results, so i wouldn't call this actual instrument isolation.
Definitely agree, kind of like the old trick of plugging in just one of the turntable outputs(or plugging it halfway in) and sampling stuff thats panned hard left or right...
Old 6th September 2016
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Nothing new to me
I use the Audition CenterChannelExtractor and/or spectral view window for years.Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't but even if it sound kind of strange sometimes because of the "bubbling" artifacts you can still use EQ to get rid of some artifacts and put the sample in the mix somewhere in the background.

peace
Old 7th September 2016
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Old 7th September 2016
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Great info here,keep it coming!
Old 8th September 2016
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Old 24th September 2016
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Old 24th September 2016
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Gotta add though: K-Def did that one^ first, some 10 years ago.
Old 24th September 2016
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one of his comments goes something like "can't be done in mono" so again... pretty sure it's some sort of LCR MS subtraction chain.
Old 28th July 2017
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Gotta add though: K-Def did that one^ first, some 10 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1JeLkjLLTU

Had to go and do a cleaner one.
I'm done!
Old 28th July 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1JeLkjLLTU

Had to go and do a cleaner one.
I'm done!
Naw, let me hear a full blown lead vocal 100% center acapella. That CB is 100% on the (EDIT) left.
Old 28th July 2017
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Naw, let me hear a full blown lead vocal 100% center acapella. That CB is 100% on the right.
What accapella, what CB?
Old 28th July 2017
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The cowbell is on the left in the break you posted. Can this "isolation" be done on/for a lead vocals? That.
Old 28th July 2017
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The cowbell is on the left in the break you posted. Can this "isolation" be done on/for a lead vocals? That.
The right side isn't clean either.
Go ahead and try it

I haven't messed with other stuff yet.
Old 28th July 2017
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mess with some full mix and extract some center, be it snare, kick, or vocals.
Old 8th February 2018
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A sample cleared plug in ?
Old 8th February 2018
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that's definitely not simple M/S processing. he's doing some kind of spectral manipulation, which is why it sounds like it's been run through a noise reduction algorithm (that washy bad mp3 encoder type artifact).

it's similar to the way melodyne can isolate certain things.
Old 12th February 2018
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There was a video on youtube a while back with him showing how it was done on cubase. Seems to be long gone though.

There's a number of different isolation programmes, sony spectralayers pro is pretty good, I use it in conjunction with brainworx bx solo and izotope RX and parametric EQ if im working in the box. Gets me some nice clean isolated instruments that retain most of the clarity.

Then there's ADX by audionamix which I have never tried but from the tutorials on youtube it looks pretty good.
Old 13th February 2018
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yeah, for mid/side and general manipulation of stereo sources, i use bx control on pretty much everything. the ability to mono-ize stereo sources below a specified frequency while retaining a wide stereo spread in the mid/top end is useful in so many situations, and the stereo widener can sound fantastic.

the izotope RX is about the best noise reduction plug i've used, and you can also feed it certain frequency swaths in learn mode to have it remove those frequencies dynamically the same way as removing noise. i still think melodyne does likely the best job of removing specific elements from samples, but it depends on the source material.. if there are only a couple elements in the mix with disparate frequency ranges, it can do a fairly good job.. the more elements in a mix, the more you get overlapping frequencies between various instruments and it can be impossible to isolate things cleanly, or at all.
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RX is leader
plus you can try Zinaptiq's UNMIX
Regroover
and Yellow Noise Audio DrumExtract
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