I may pick one or two elements and run it thru my Howard Hughes SRS spatial box. It was designed for cockpit voice recognition and it totally ****s with the phase. Sometimes I would put a number of effects in series, ultimately ending in the SRS and adjust the "width" control so that it appeared outside the speakers, to the left and right of the outermost edge of the speakers. Its certainly fun,not mono compatible and usually gives the artist a woody and the mastering engineers a feeling of naseau.
Don't try this if your project is going to vinyl....
In the DAW world, same principle, just try using the S1 image maker .
On headphones , its like someone is turning your brain inside out....
And put down that weed , when you do this, It may alter your life forever
Basically those boxes and software plug ins do alter the phase coherency of the stereo track. Trying to cut an acetate with such a significant phase anomaly would cause the cutting head to lift up during the mastering. It would mean a remix at the very least.
CD's are much more forgiving in terms of duplication.
When listening to the band "Deftones" I notice that the guitars sound a bit wider compared to my mixes. Would using a stereo expander like "Waves Imager" on the guitars alone be a good idea to acheive a wider stereo spread? Or would this muck about with the phasing too much?
Oh, how I loved that box! But like an idiot I sold it a few years ago...
At the time it came out, the other thing out there was the Bedini Audio Spacial environment (BASE). I liked the AK-100 better, and it was way cheaper. It has a sort of gritty warmth to it - and as was stated earlier, it's best used on elements, not an entire mix, IMO.
btw Kevin, this is my first post in your guest forum. Thank you Soooo much for doing this with us!
When doing the same thing in-box, using Waves s1, are you talking about the width control, or are you also adjusting symmetry control also? I'm just making sure I'm understanding you correctly. No flipping of tracks, and phase, then, right?
It may seem out of place but to me it seems funny to use high end convertors and a million dollar console only to end up degrading the final signal with a 40$ unit
Whats the N:S ratio on that thing
That is often the irony of mixing but you just have to use your ears to judge what is right for the mix. But probably no worse than the $35 foot pedal you use for the guitar or the $300 speakers you mix thru !