I'm trying to create a kick drum that has a lovely soft beater sound, but still cuts through the mix and commands a nice groove.
My efforts are, not entirely satisfying, either sounding too punchy and not at all fluffy, or just getting lost.
What kind of combos work well, an 808 very probably, with a jazz kick???
Any other secret ingrediants to try?
For jazz drums, I sometimes use a low pass filter on the kick drum. That allows me to use the close miced kick to add roundness and bottom to the kit. The top of the kick comes through the OH and snare mics. For more bottom, I find that the Renaissance Bass plug from Waves can be very nice, too.
When you are after this softer type of sound, it is also important to remember not to make the other sounds in the ensemble too bright, since the top of the kick and the upright bass won't tolerate much competition up there.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GRiFF
[B]I'm trying to create a kick drum that has a lovely soft beater sound, but still cuts through the mix and commands a nice groove.
if you are talking about recording it , if i want a lovely soft beater sound , i will use a lovely soft beater.
Try an RE20. It is a pretty poofy kick mic. I used to think of it as sounding like hitting a pillow, but if the pillow just came out of the drier it likely would be warm and fluffy.
Not going to tell you how to set up your kick drum, but you probably don't want a vented reso head or either head to have built-in muffling. Felt strips between the shell and head work well though. And of course, a felt beater and possibly no patch. The rest of it is up to tuning, the player, and the mic position.