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Alphajerk's top 10 tricks on how not to lose soul in a DAW production
Old 1st September 2002
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Alphajerk's top 10 tricks on how not to lose soul in a DAW production

Well?
Old 1st September 2002
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10. do not beat detect
9. do not quantize
8. do not sound replace
7. do not auto tune
6. use editing VERY wisely [or not at all]
5. let the band play live as much as they can [preferrably w/o cans]
4. make the band get the take
3. do not comp
2. make the band comfortable
1. let it bleed
Old 1st September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by alphajerk
10. do not beat detect
9. do not quantize
8. do not sound replace
7. do not auto tune
6. use editing VERY wisely [or not at all]
5. let the band play live as much as they can [preferrably w/o cans]
4. make the band get the take
3. do not comp
2. make the band comfortable
1. let it bleed
This is exacltly how I`m doing it!)
Because I track analog(MCI JH-24), the bands have to perform to sound good! I like that.....
**** in, **** out...........tut
Old 2nd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by alphajerk
10. do not beat detect
9. do not quantize
8. do not sound replace
7. do not auto tune
6. use editing VERY wisely [or not at all]
5. let the band play live as much as they can [preferrably w/o cans]
4. make the band get the take
3. do not comp
2. make the band comfortable
1. let it bleed

Forgive me Alpha for I am a regular sinner on most of your commandments .... what is my punishment ???
Old 2nd September 2002
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DO NOT SOUND REPLACE?!?!?!


*sits in corner and says 50 Hail Gearslutz with roseries*
Old 2nd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by plexi


This is exacltly how I`m doing it!)
Because I track analog(MCI JH-24), the bands have to perform to sound good! I like that.....
**** in, **** out...........tut
WHAT!!?? madd

Are YOU a COMMUNIST!!?? tut rollz heh grggt
Old 2nd September 2002
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well, you can get away with one or two things if you like.

in fact, the more rules you break... well, i never took to rules anyway.
Old 2nd September 2002
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Funny doing a CD project yesterday, after we tracked 3-8 takes and the band picked the one they liked. I asked did they want to go through it head to tail a few times to edit any mistakes.
They said nah it was cool, they liked that take and any mistakes were just added vibe. It so cool do do a band that does not want you to fix every bass note etc down to the 16th note.
Old 2nd September 2002
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Cool

MORE ****ing COMMUNISTS!! heh dfegad
Old 2nd September 2002
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Oh I am sorry! I thought this was the Cookie Cutter Production seminar, I must have got the wrong door!



Old 2nd September 2002
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You forgot the 11th commandment which superceeds all others:-

11. Thou shat not get caught...
Old 2nd September 2002
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Talking

Hey Julian!! grggt

You STILL need a few *cookies*, do you??!! heh
Old 2nd September 2002
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Whats the point of recording to a DAW if you dont use that stuff?

If I could get away with NOT doing all the stuff on that list, I'd get a tape machine and have some real fun with a real console.
Old 2nd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by planet red
Whats the point of recording to a DAW if you dont use that stuff?
instant location
instant recall
true section looping
better and tighter automation
cost
number of tracks
ability to work across multiple songs

just some right off the top of my head...
Old 3rd September 2002
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For thoose times where it is a great take but for only one stuff up, quicker to edit in a daw then Tape.
Editing for a noticeable stuff up is cool.
editing to suck any life out is not.
Old 3rd September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by plexi


This is exacltly how I`m doing it!)
Because I track analog(MCI JH-24), the bands have to perform to sound good! I like that.....
**** in, **** out...........tut
My too, only I use an M79.
Old 3rd September 2002
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12. Never edit when asked to. Make the ****er do it over...
It's a Pavlovian thing, train 'em well and the blade can stay in the box.
Old 4th September 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fibes
12. Never edit when asked to. Make the ****er do it over...
It's a Pavlovian thing, train 'em well and the blade can stay in the box.
see #6
Old 4th September 2002
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Yeah, but there's nothing more annoying than the artist nagging for edits even if they aren't done. I hate that...dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad dfegad
Old 4th September 2002
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i have had that happen a couple times in my current session. "cant you just edit those two together?"... my reply "cant you just play it right to begin with? lets do another take and get it right"

editing happens only when i say it happens.
Old 4th September 2002
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i also have an addendum. this doesnt apply JUST to DAW's but recording in general.

sometimes, in our quest for sonic perfection, we take out all that makes something human.

i did a tracking session a while back now and one of the guys had a scratchy jack on their guitar, another had a bad cable. one of the guys amps only had 2 working speakers out of 4 and the other 2 were stuffed with foam.

now i could of gone and fixed all of these "problems" but i decided that these were the little elements that gave humanity to the recording. the noise made by the player moving and the jack losing connection.

or things like the sympathetic buzz of the snare from the bass amp.

these arent things that always need to be "fixed".
Old 4th September 2002
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Exactly! snare buzz is fun!
Old 4th September 2002
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How about "Always make the client think they are getting what they want, especially when it ultimately is."

What they want - the best sounding product.
If we have to move the elbow instead of the fader to make the singer happy, so be it. heh
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