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System of a Down's raw guitar/bass sound Electric Guitar Amplification
Old 28th January 2014
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System of a Down's raw guitar/bass sound

Hey, Sylvia. Can you give some insight on Daron and Shavo's rig and how you recorded it? Amps, pedals, guitars, mics, pres, etc?

On that first album the guitar and bass breakup so much and in a way I've never heard before. The haven't done that on an album since. How in the hell did you do it?
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Old 28th January 2014
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Hi Sylvia

To me the guitars on the first System record are some of the chunkiest if heard to date. I've always wondered how they were tracked, what gear was used etc...

That record really stands out sonically to me.

Thanks

Ben
Old 30th January 2014
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System Of A Down's Guitar Set-Up Details

From the System sessions, Daron was an organic, guitar-into-amp kinda guy, with as little extra as possible. Les Paul and SG Gibsons were go-to guitars, and he started to use an Ibanez Iceman in the studio. The amps were mostly Marshalls, with the focus on the Marshall JCM800. Pretty standard equipment, really. Daron's explosive style of playing was what made the performances so special.

We recorded most of the guitars at Rick Rubin's home studio on his sweet little Neve 8068. I brought in racks of my own processing, and used my "Army Man' compressor on most of the guitars (that is my secret weapon!). I've drawn a diagram of the set-up:
System of a Down's raw guitar/bass sound-systemguitar.jpg
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Old 30th January 2014
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That is a really great drawing!
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Old 30th January 2014
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Dude! Informational cartoon recreations. That's actually super useful as a visual learner. More people should do that.
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Old 30th January 2014
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summed to tape as one track. commitment. awesome.
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Old 30th January 2014
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Hi Sylvia!!!

I like your artwork

Thanks!

-Joe
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Old 31st January 2014
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I am curious how you avoided phasing issues with this setup. Were the amps in separate iso booths and/or was it a combination of precise mike placement?
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Old 31st January 2014
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great, so you recorded directly to tape? or was a ad - computer - da conversion (for editing) in between?
thx for the diagram, really nice painting skills
Old 31st January 2014
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Thank you, Sylvia! Just a follow up. What is causing the guitar/bass to sound like it's actually tearing your speakers apart? Is that just crazy speaker cone distortion that you picked up?

I build guitar effects, amps, and pro audio equipment. There isn't a fuzz box or guitar amp that I've seen that makes that sound. Think "Know" on the first album.
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Old 1st February 2014
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I love the drawing.
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Old 1st February 2014
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Can I ask you how and why you use a compressor on distorted electric guitars ?

Thanks for doing this Q&A by the way !
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Old 3rd February 2014
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Sylvia, I love the drawing. Especially the Iceman!
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Old 3rd February 2014
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I don't have a question but Sylvia, you did an amazing job with this album!
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