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The Bronx II drum recording
Old 9th July 2015
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The Bronx II drum recording

Hi Ross, love your work. I particularly admire the drums on Bronx II. The room sound is really great; short and tight, but powerful, without taking up space and gumming up the midrange. It lends a really cool feel to the kit: everything is quite separated, but there's still a very strong sense of the acoustic space you recorded in. I'm wondering if there is anything in particular you did during tracking that might have contributed to that vibe.

Thanks for taking the time to do this Q&A.
Old 11th July 2015
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Ross Hogarth
 
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Hey there
The Bronx record was done in a very unique studio. My dear pal, Michael Beinhorn produced it. He was set up in a huge space in venice with very high ceilings.
and
we built a special riser for the drums to get them higher off the ground and in the air ...
I also used my 28" kik drum that Jorma the drummer had to get used to at those high tempos that they play at
the micing was very minimal but just right ...
we spent a lot of time moving mics around until we were really happy ..
there were 2 M50's above the and kind of behind the kit where they really catptured the drums
low and in the back was a Royer SF24
in front but not to close was a FET 47
on the sides were my KM 56's
down lo in front was a Coles and a old Neuman with a Hitler capsule
and on the snare it was a Telefunken/AKg D19
no 57 ...
the toms were C37'a after also trying some Audio Technica something something ..(dont remember exact model of those because we ultimately changed them)
so all the mics were made for leakage
so that all the leakage was very musical
and then to top it off
we recorded through Michaels special 2" 8 track machines to Sonoma DSD ...
pretty rad for a punk rock record .. haha
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Old 11th July 2015
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Old 11th July 2015
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Great info and pics!

Also fantastic record, and I love the drum sounds.

The KM56 pair on sides, were these used in a Mid/Side setup?
Old 11th July 2015
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Ross Hogarth
 
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Originally Posted by gollumsluvslave View Post
Great info and pics!

Also fantastic record, and I love the drum sounds.

The KM56 pair on sides, were these used in a Mid/Side setup?
No, the KM56's were on each side of the drum kit, not in back, not in front .. but on the side .. no m/s was done on this recording ..
Old 11th July 2015
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This is not my thread.. I hope the OP and modas are ok with this..

Can you please explain the panning and processing of this setup ?
Very curious about the placement in the stereo field and the reasoning behind it

Very cool!!

Congratz and thank you again for taking the time!



Cheu
Old 12th July 2015
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no 57 ...
Hahahaha. Yes.

Last edited by JamesClark1991; 13th July 2015 at 06:32 PM..
Old 12th July 2015
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There is something magical about seeing photos of one of your favourite albums being recorded!

Thanks Ross, and great work!
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Old 12th July 2015
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Ross, could you describe the thought behind the drum riser in a little more detail? How did it change the sound?
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Old 14th July 2015
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Smile

One of my favorite rock drum recordings of all time.
huge,present,natural,bombastic but focused at the same time.
thank you for the info and pictures Ross!
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Old 15th July 2015
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Am I right in believing that this album was mixed by Mike Shipley? Being his biggest fan, I remember thinking that the tracks all sounded gorgeous. Easily one of my favourite Drum Sounds. Props.

Can I ask Ross, you mentioned musical leakage... this is something that I'm just coming to grips with and had success with a recent live recording using musical leakage. In terms of drums, what do you define as such and how do you approach mic'ing up to ensure the leakage is good leakage!

I feel like my question leaks a little sense..
Old 16th July 2015
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Thank you for all that glorious info. I would have never guessed a 28" kick drum. Now I have to buy one....

What heads do you keep on the monster?
Old 16th July 2015
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Hi Ross,

With that many mics around the kit did you have to be very careful about phase issues either with placement, or during the mix, when blending the tracks together?

Fantastic work!

-Dan
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